Radial / low flange - safe?

ive come across an excellent deal on a wheelset.

one concern. the front is a low flange hub laced radially. will this be a problem?

hub is miche. spokes are phil wood.

thanks

nope, next.

No problem if well built with decent parts.

If its a Zipp Rim then radial is fine.
If its a road bike, or a track bike just to be used on the track then thats also fine.

If its something to be used for hacking it around urban streets then no, 3x it up!

NB: Just read the whole thread.
Sounds like a 'fixie' wheel set. In which case no, you don't want radial, and you don't really want Miche Hubs.

Miche hubs are design to run radical, so you're fine really as long the wheel is nice and true.

Miche hubs are design to run radical, so you're fine really as long the wheel is nice and true.

really? didn't know that.

I don't mean designed only for radical lacing, just design to be able to have the option of one.

pista!

it's Pistard you silly nugget.

Ed: WTF!? All hubs can take radial.

it's Pistard you silly nugget.

your mum is pistard.

• no offence to your mum im sure she is lovely.
  

Ed: WTF!? All hubs can take radial.

steady on old bean, not all of them can, only forged hubs can take radical.

Yep, Miche Pistard fronts always come laced radially

well, we're talking about low-flange here.

low flange 28h 2x rear, low flange 28h radial front

built by someone with 30 years under their belt...

If its a Zipp Rim then radial is fine.
If its a road bike, or a track bike just to be used on the track then thats also fine.

If its something to be used for hacking it around urban streets then no, 3x it up!

All my front wheels are radially laced to low flange hubs (even the MTB wheels) - zero problems for years and years (if well built) - even for smashing around town, steps, curbs, policemen* and so on.

• sleeping.
  

well, we're talking about low-flange here.

low flange 28h 2x rear, low flange 28h radial front

built by someone with 30 years under their belt...

I've got one front Campy Record radial (32h). It's sound.

I have low flange miche hubs on mavics cxp12, front is radial and no troubles at all. I have a very tight clearance fork and check truing quite regularly. its still perfect.

was built by an old man, almost blind...I guess he can do it by hearing the tension on the spokes. ahaha

i have an old blind dude spitting me high flange doublewhiskeycokenoice's and its all good.

was built by an old man, almost blind...I guess he can do it by hearing the tension on the spokes. ahaha

Dogsballs is not blind, he just doesn't pay attention.

Ha!

thanks everyone.

Ed: WTF!? All hubs can take radial.

Some manufactures void the warranty if a particular hub is built radial. Some (DT Swiss) market their front hubs as radial hubs.

Its basically due to the placement of the drillings. If you design a hub to be 3x only, then you dont need much material directly between the drilling and the flange edge, as the spokes will be pulling perpendicular to this.

In many ways radial is a stronger design for a front wheel. But this is very dependand on the build though. Apparantly spokes can loose tension easier, so details like how/if the threads are treated become more important.

Yep, Shimano didn't warrant all their hubs if laced up radially (until a couple of years ago).
I had several (front) hubs with radial spokes, never a problem. Appearantly Shimano had enough claims to state that it was not allowed.