Sometimes I want LFGSS to be part of a Shadownet

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/11/leaked-acta-internet-provisions-three-strikes-and-

It's just shocking.

I cannot as a provider of this site possible take steps to police the forum in such a way that I can have any confidence that there isn't some copyright infringing material on here.

Hell, a photo of a bike is copyright to someone, somewhere.

So I'm tempted, always am... enticed you might say... by the idea of making LFGSS an invite only site, and to make it https:// only. Basically... if you're one of us, cool... you're in. Otherwise, tough you're out.

The problem with doing this isn't so much the technical side, but it's the cost side. The site is big, it would've been easier to do that when it was small... but now we have 3 servers and costs each month and no sponsor will pay to lose a significant chunk of passer-by audience. Though, sponsors might consider paying to access a private audience, but the audience is so much smaller (a tenth) of the public audience.

There might actually be some benefit. No more n00bs and the dumb questions.

Gah, I hate politics, I hate the leaders of men. I do love the idea of the darknet, it's really attractive... but the forum has actually done a lot of good being public, and it seems a shame to consider that stuff slowing down.

Cost to post picture £1

That will stop at least 99.9% of them going up and the ones that do go up will add weight to the DK retirement fund.

Simples.

This advice is free and is not subject to copyright.

^^^yeah that all well and good but when's the single night at RPM?????

Were you there Saturday?

^^^ was there snogging in the darker corners ? forumenger on forumenger action ?!?!?!

make any wanna be forumenger attend a NESW drinks and have to go through an interview process .... that way we can weed out the one one langsters of the world and the paul michels

ha! can you imagine the twitters? "yo! any fixie skidders got an invite for LFGSS? dm me yo!"

There must be a packet of money to be made letting content owners know where their content was posted, number of hits and profit made. It wont fly, a disclaimer on the source and posted sites cover all.

The great thing about the internet is the ability for anything to succeed in this viral set up, the sad thing is the big companies trying to emulate the little viral gem that comes out every now and again

make any wanna be forumenger attend a NESW drinks and have to go through an interview process .... that way we can weed out the one one langsters of the world and the paul michels

Not an entirely bad idea... "Don't know anyone and want an invite? Come drink with us and you might get lucky!".

And matt, it would be great... just think about it.

Also, classifieds, we'd be back to the purity of the community of friends just helping each other out.

There are other motives too, it might be a way to protect the community. There's a lot of love here and I feel like I'm missing some of it by working and studying too hard. It's passing me by. I don't want to find that you've all taken the love off-line and the forum has been diluted by the incessant rambling and bickering of newbie fools... why would I want to run a place like that? So there's a selfish view too, maybe I can do something that preserves the love a bit more so that when my study ends I get a bit of it too.

The love is heavily Diluted, Drinks are picking up, rides are getting bigger.. there are still some gems; The chrismtas party, GSIAD, the odd birthday...

Maybe more advanced filters or Statler and Waldorf becomes what is destined to be

Were you there Saturday?

bloody working! I keep missing the good things. Saying that, I'm very much up for Friday night S London drink tour.

What says you?

Maybe more advanced filters or Statler and Waldorf becomes what is destined to be

Secret forums within forums? Never!

Well, perhaps.

I actually considered a invite only inner circle of "do-ers". Initial seed members based on time on site and # of posts... and then limited invites after that.

I try to live what I believe though, and I do believe in open and free societies. What I feel is the conflict of trying to create one within what is increasingly becoming a closed society around us... can you have open-ness within a closed society? Big questions.

Cause maybe one day those newbs will become friends :-) People who have grown beyond the bickering and the hate. People who have grown to enjoy the personalities behind the avatars. People who appreciate the hard work and effort others make to make this place amasing.

Please dont kick us newbs out. Pretty please...

based on time on site and # of posts...

please do not publish this data.

I wouldn't totally slam the door, just close it enough so that only those who want to get in are able to. Either through connections, or by coming out for drinks... small chinks in the armour to let people in that would benefit from the community and that the community would be richer for having.

It would help you know... the spammers and trolls would never put the effort in. Those who just into the fashion or think it would be fun to come take the piss, those people wouldn't be arsed going through the motions. And inside, confident of our security, we could just remove even the need for any moderation... even the extreme stuff could say, your reputation within the community being the thing that you risk, not whether your potential employers in the future find something you've said.

Very valid point. It would inveriably close me out as i work 14 hours a day, 7 days a week and my only interation with some of the cool people in here, is in here. I really need to find a saturday/ sundy afternoon thing to do with you people as thats my only day off BEFORE you close up...

But i see where youre going with this. Though, the passing traffic is how you find a lot of new cool people. I found it that way. maybe have a private section and a public space? You need to have an internet presence to capture the imagination of what this forum can really offer.

...some of my only interation at all with people really...

There might actually be some benefit. No more n00bs and the dumb questions.

£10,000 wired to your account if this is true.

or fight the bastards and help stand up for the digital commons for all of us!! you'd have my support on that one.

Why don't we just go back to the sneaker-net?

I will bring round all my latest posts on CD.

or fight the bastards and help stand up for the digital commons for all of us!! you'd have my support on that one.

Sending the web towards full encryption is indeed fighting them.

MI5 blocked the 3 strikes proposals recently on the basis that it would encourage people to adopt more encryption and would harm their monitoring.

Found a site that went SSL only:
https://forum.defcon.org/showthread.php?t=9967

That's kinda interesting too... the entire site still available but full encryption so that no third parties could access or monitor anything. They could still manually come to the site and look, but they couldn't automatically scan the sites traffic.

^^^

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Holy shit! I want in on defcon forum!

don't make it invite-only! that's the new york fixed has, and when i tried to access it a few years ago, not even being able to view the forums was really lame. the openness and inclusiveness of fgss is what makes it special. it will never be as community based as it was in the very beginning, but with growth, that's pretty unavoidable. there are enough old heads on here for it to still retain that community spirit if you decide to stay on here long enough, and go to social events/drinks.

make it invite-only, and it will stagnate, and get boring fast!

if it was encrypted then i guess its no problems for those who should be working

:P

I say keep the self moderation but limit the number of new threads and allow us to vote on closing a thread.
That would be ace! if something was litter/repost/pointless we should be able to mark for deletion. if enough do this then it gets removed..B.I.N.G.O fewer crap to trawl through.

The second option would be to look at peoples browsing habits, maybe filter those threads your friends are associated with, those with the heaviest post counts and highest number of friends get carry a higher weighting. We will have "Londonfgss desktop" before you know it...