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• #2
Although thats a lot of money, Im surprised its not more money. There must be loads of engineering going on in that thing.
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• #3
Nope.
Witchcraft.
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• #4
Is that the only shifter option - werent they looking at a couple of options?
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• #5
I went to my local frame builders (they only build trikes) and they have a fixed gear trike with that on
offered to sell me the hub for cheap:)Verry nice guys in there
ICE inspired cycle engineering
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• #6
That looks very nice.
Where can I buy it online?
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• #7
google.
http://www.futurecycles.co.uk/best-buys/sturmey-archer-3-speed-fixed-gear-hub-s3x.html
cheaper option is extra ring and surly dingle.
one less gear and have to change manually but save £180.
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• #8
Even cheaper option is a double fixed hub.
That's not really the point though is it.
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• #9
Someone I know did some prototype testing about one and a half years ago. He broke two of them in very little time. I tried it and it had loads of play. Also the normal SA three speeds are shit compared to the Sram ones. I can only hope the production model is much much better than the prototype was. I´m not trying to bash SA, just sharing my experiance. I like the idea tough.
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• #10
more expensive than a 8speed alfine!
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• #11
due to the alfine being produced in much larger quantities
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• #12
Someone I know did some prototype testing about one and a half years ago. He broke two of them in very little time. I tried it and it had loads of play. .
that's actually normal to have some play on it, in the past when there's more variation of those, hubs, each one have a different amount of play, the 2 speed fixed hubs were popular for time trialling back then mostly because not just for the two speed option but because there's little play on it.
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• #13
Someone I know did some prototype testing about one and a half years ago. He broke two of them in very little time. I tried it and it had loads of play. Also the normal SA three speeds are shit compared to the Sram ones. I can only hope the production model is much much better than the prototype was. I´m not trying to bash SA, just sharing my experiance. I like the idea tough.
By "normal" do you mean the AW3?
That has now been superceded by the SRF, which I understand has eliminated the old AW problems. I've got one to try out so I'll report back when I have.SRAM and Shimano of course started with hub gears by taking SA hubs and copying them, and doing it badly. The original Shimano 3 speeds were cheap, fragile crap. They only got good when Sturmey had been asset stripped, and had neither the will nor the means to defend its patents.
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• #14
I can get hold of those hubs for £175, if anyones interested PM me. you can pick em up from my workshop in farringdon.
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• #15
interesting. can't see the point, but interesting/.
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• #16
Yes!!!!
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• #17
Does anyone know where to get a full range of S3X sprockets in the UK? I need a 14T.
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• #18
I'm thinking of doing some wheel builds with these s3x hubs- (complete with bar end shifter and choice of rear sprocket etc. ) - with Chrina (the shinny polished variant) or a deep section rim similar to weinman. and something like the ubiquitous zenith on the front. and DB SS spokes. just scoping out the interest
- would pairs be better than just rear wheel alone?
- or would just the bare hubs be more attractive?
rims - Chrina ? deep section?
let me know any initial ideas first and i'll check out maybe a limited run of a few pairs, rears or hubs , depending on feasibility-
- would pairs be better than just rear wheel alone?
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• #19
what are the ratios?
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• #21
yes i found it easier to think in terms of
0.75 1.00 and 1.33333333
THE range is not very TT (as the USC was )/ street / hipster friendly - it being a touring range. more suited to what i like - getting out in the hills on long rides
i set the center gear as pretty much what i'd ride anyway - some where between 42/18 and 42/17
this means with 42t on front you'd want a 14 on rear for the s3x hub. giving apporx these gears equivalent UPHILL 42/24 LEVEL 42/18 DOWNHILL 42/ 14
or with the proper sturmey crank i've fitted (46T) i've put on a 15T for similar but very slightly longer gears.
they were right to put Direct drive as top because if anything goes in the way of cable / shifter you certainly don't want to be running fast down a hill and suddenly find yourself in a low gear
(redlining my motorbike on the motorway i changed down instead of up with similar heart stopping - rear wheel locking- results )i'll stick on pics of the build later tonight.
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• #22
thinking about it at least on the motorbike i had a clutch to dump the revs fast !
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• #23
here we are. they've done the right thing and gave out all bar end shifters which you just unscrew as per any shimano bar end shifter, to give you a down tube shifter - your choice.
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• #24
ooops - here is pic
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• #25
no - can't them on - anyway you know what it all looks like
It's fixed gear, but not singlespeed. Or single speed.
You get everything shown plus a cable, but not a sprocket (this one is a 15T) for £180 plus postage. It feels very well made and there is minimal lash between driving and braking. Now I need to get some spokes and lace it up. Chainline is adjustable using spacers; in the maximum position shown here it's about 46-46.5mm, which is handily the same as a Goldtec track hub. You can reduce it to about 41mm by moving the spacers.