How to spot a good frame?

Ok so im pretty new to the bike world and am on the hunt for a frame to convert into a single speed bike. I was just looking for some tips, good makes and some general info how to spot a good frame so I don't get mugged of my cash. Also i would like to know the tell tale signes of a bad frame

all help pappreciated

all help pappreciated

seriously?

naw man i was joking

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paprika pringles ?

Ok so im pretty new to the bike world and am on the hunt for a frame to convert into a single speed bike. I was just looking for some tips, good makes and some general info how to spot a good frame so I don't get mugged of my cash. Also i would like to know the tell tale signes of a bad frame

all help pappreciated

You can tell a bad frame because it looks like a shoe, or a Cod.

no way, so thats where i was going wrong

thanks for the help ;)

Ok so im pretty new to the bike world

Really?
Do go on.
Logs off

so no help here ??????????????

You are making massive assumptions for someone who has barely ridden a bike. Why do you want to go out and get a bike for the sole purpose of converting it into a singlespeed?

Did you not ponder that bicycles with multi-speed drivetrains might have been made that way for a reason, some merit perhaps?

Ask yourself why you need a bike, urban transport, shopping, long distance, canals, off road, exercise, looking cool etc...

It will help you figure out if it is indeed a bike you need, and perhaps what type.

There are zillions of 'makes' out there, many of whom make top-end stuff as well as junk so there is not much point in going after a particular name.

If you had some experience of riding bikes is would help a lot in choosing something according to your taste/needs.

But as you dont have any I would reccommend getting something cheap that is roughly the right size riding it for a while and coming out with a better idea of what you like and dont like aswell as a better idea of your ideal size & geometry.

Frame quality on steel frames is pretty obvious, cast & stamped ends & lugs, tight joins with neat welds or brazing. A label showing tubing type:

Peugeout carbolite/reynolds 501 = Basic, but good enough.

Avoid any that look like this.

Can't believe this hasn't been mentioned already... http://www.sheldonbrown.com/- it's like a bible to me. Get yourself a cuppa of T, sit back, and absorb the information on there :)

cheers for the help guys

and yeah I think ill go cheap to start off

The frame is good as long as it's straightish, lightish and the right size.

https://www.londonfgss.com/thread30690.html

Always use tar to spot a frame, and 80's trainers.

And stay away from Unipacks/ Create Bikes!

You can tell a bad frame because it looks like a Cod.

... Also i would like to know the tell tale signes of a bad frame

all help pappreciated

1) Comes home late smelling of someone elses crotch
2) Steals your money, when confronted lies
3) Disappears for days on end, returns muttering something about Polo
4) Runs red lights

5) Always flat when you want a ride

ha

Looks like Max(fixedfreak)

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