Radio 4 Bristol Cycling City program

Thought this might interest people outside Bristol too.

listen again for seven days --- http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00mx6bc

or MP3 at ---

http://www.bristolcyclingcampaign.org.uk/resources/Radio%204%20-%20Bristol%20Cycling%20City.mp3

Bristol Traffic has its review up.

Judging by the way the reporter was whining about doing park street, it may be that he was using a single speed -or had not been fully briefed in how to use low gears. We are lucky he didn't go on Nine Tree Hill by mistake, or his commentary would be even more negative.

Does anyone know who the woman whining about bicycles on Gloucester Road was? Given that an bus lane runs down most of it, and from 1-sept the cameras in the buses are being used to generate parking tickets (First month: warnings, from next week, bills), there is a perfectly wide route to cycle along. The only place they would have conflict would be if there were cars parked on the pavement, bus lane or bike lane

Cycling rules on you and yours today some time after 12:00.

thanks Tommy- that show is painful though, like a condensed risk averse version of the Daily Mail on drip feed into your ears, cant stand it.

on now J. And it's quite good so far.

truly breaks my heart as a bicyclist and train user to see how we are getting shafted by the government for something that should be encouraged-they want more cars on the roads.
Hammond=cunt
there are loads of people who would make better transport ministers, Christian Wolmar e.g

i thought the program was piss poor.

and then they got a motoring commentator on to speak about how and where people should cylce. ffs.

it is like two wolves and sheep discussing what to have for lunch.

having a motoring commentator speaking to motorists saying that cyclists should ride a metre from the kerb, and in the centre of the lane at junctions was good.
think deeper young Jedi

^ please dont patronise me.

i wonder why they did not get someone on from ctc or lcc to comment on where and how people should be cycling ?

motorists do not have sole rights on the road.

and a person from the motorists organisation is not going to question why people are still motoring. and / or why they are motoring illegally as most / many of them do.

@Somebody Im not, just injecting a bit of levity into it.

"motorists do not have sole rights on the road.

and a person from the motorists organisation is not going to question why people are still motoring. and / or why they are motoring illegally as most / many of them do."

different programme from the one that was broadcast

In my view the worst thing about that piece was the reporter saying there is a 'proficiency test', well maybe there is a test in some Boroughs,
all road use organsations shoule be in dialogue- one way that acceptance of bike riding as commonplace method of getting about will happen

^ it felt like you were patronising me.

so when are the bbc going to make the right programme. answer = never.

cos they daren't = mob (people who motor) rule.

i still think the programme was biased. and that assertion is supported by them asking a person who supports motoring commentating on how and where people should cycle.

(i acknowledge there may have been some marginal benefit to the programme in publicising that there is cycle training available).

but i do not want or need cycle training or cycling this or that. i just want 20 mph.

then everybody is safer including those who chose to motor.

(i did not hear the motoring guy advocate 20 mph).

that is why the program was biased. and that is why i think the program was poor and the approach was out bloody rageous.

it will be interesting to see whether i get a reply from the bbc.

Yep,
it will be, lets see if auntie is considerate of your points

so when are the bbc going to make the right programme. answer = never.

cos they daren't = mob (people who motor) rule.

i still think the programme was biased. and that assertion is supported by them asking a person who supports motoring commentating on how and where people should cycle.

(i acknowledge there may have been some marginal benefit to the programme in publicising that there is cycle training available).

but i do not want or need cycle training or cycling this or that. i just want 20 mph.

then everybody is safer including those who chose to motor.

(i did not hear the motoring guy advocate 20 mph).

that is why the program was biased. and that is why i think the program was poor and the approach was out bloody rageous.

it will be interesting to see whether i get a reply from the bbc.

Again a different program to the one that was advertised. This was a program about cycle poisoning and cycle training, could have done with a CTC or whatever member but would still have needed the IAM guy to give a backup from a motoring organisation which to many other road users is needed, and it's these people you are trying to talk to.

yes i am confused about the references to bristol on this thread.

a link to the program i listened to is here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00d2vmg

the bbc have since sent a standard email back saying i can make a complaint from which the editor will reply within ten days.

here goes.....

This thead was started about a programme in 2009 on R4 and was bumped about todays programme Sombody.

The best thing about the program today was the clear message about riding a car doors distance from parked cars, The more that cyclists riding centrally in the lane is mentioned mainstrean the more drivers will be accepting of that. It was especially good that the message was given by Duncan Pickering of the IAM rather than rolling out a CTC person.

Somebody, you do have a good point about 20mp since at that speed there would be evcen less conflict between drivers and cyclists