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I for one will miss the bendy buses. My life used to be hell before the no.18 was turned into a bendy bus, 3 or 4 packed double deckers used to go past at rush hour before you could squeeze your self in. As for the not paying issue who cares its a pubic service for the public.
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I for one will miss the bendy buses. My life used to be hell before the no.18 was turned into a bendy bus, 3 or 4 packed double deckers used to go past at rush hour before you could squeeze your self in. As for the not paying issue who cares its a pubic service for the public.
No.18 buses where your shit get stolen :P
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Why don't people like them? I remember when the shitty old Routemasters on the 12 route were replaced with bendy buses, it was grate.
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Why don't people like them? I remember when the shitty old Routemasters on the 12 route were replaced with bendy buses, it was grate.
Blind spots, dodgy turns on corners, waves about too much, randomly bursting into flames. And the 18 buses you get your shit nicked so you have to glue your belongings to you.
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Blind spots, dodgy turns on corners, waves about too much, randomly bursting into flames. And the 18 buses you get your shit nicked so you have to glue your belongings to you.
....what is grate?If you're a responsible cyclist there shouldn't be any problems with them, and if it does all go tits up, you can safely take shelter in the squishy bit in the middle.
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Press release from TfL:
12m single deck buses will run route 507 services. It is the first time a weekend service has been run on the route. The new buses will also run more frequently than their predecessors. At peak times the frequency of route 507 will increase from a bus every five minutes (12 buses per hour) to one every three to four minutes (18 buses per hour).
having more buses just increases traffic. Why didn't they go for double deckers? Surely single deck buses only hold half or less passengers then bendys! Doesnee make sense captain.
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Good riddance. Now get rid of the 38. There are usually 3 or 4 empty 38s on my commute to work in both directions. The routemaster on that route was fine. It could have been replaced with a double decker easily.
People who like bendies are the ones who ride them. Riding a bus instead of a bike is a fail.
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As a cyclist, a bus user and a former London Buses employee I think this decision is rubbish and more importantly a massive waste of money.
Crappy populist policy-making based on untrue 'facts' about safety and revenue loss.
I've yet to see a coherent argument, backed up with study / stats about why artics are so bad - stats on dwell times, route performance, mileage etc show me that they are good...
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I'd like to see them used as shuttle buses for longer-distance runs. An Express bus service running from Croydon to Brixton stopping at Streatham would be pretty handy for a start. No dodgy turns to negotiate and since they're not stopping they aren't coming in and out from the kerbs either.
Another one running from Hammersmith out to Heathrow would also make sense.
Get them out of central London by all means, but they have a place and should be utilised.
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having more buses just increases traffic. Why didn't they go for double deckers? Surely single deck buses only hold half or less passengers then bendys! Doesnee make sense captain.
Most people on double decker buses stay on the lower deck. The upper deck is empty but no one can squeeze in to get to the stairs. The lower deck is very narrow. A large number of users are unable to use the stairs, elderly people, mothers with pushchairs, young children, shopping etc.. You will need more double deckers to meet passenger needs, more congestion.
It will be fun when they reintroduce the buses with open platforms and passengers jump out whenever they feel like it.
A sad waste of money.
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I have to say that I have no issue with the Bendys, as long as you deploy good road sense they are no trouble at all as a cyclist. Johnson has postured on this topic since before he became mayor. Tfl did, however, run them on a couple of ludicrous routes - the one from Stoke Newington down to Islington for example - where if you had the misfortune to be a passenger you would spend a lot of your time wondering how the driver was going to get out of one jam or another.
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It seems like a stupid decision to me, for all the reasons already mentioned. I use buses a fair bit in addition to cycling, usually when I'm going somewhere I don't want to leave my bike locked up for an extended period, or when I'm not going to be in a fit state to cycle home. Does anyone know what the actual cost is going to be? I read that the additional costs for extra vehicles would be over £12m a year. Not sure if that involves public money or includes all the conductors that will be needed. Crazy amounts of money for what is, for many I suspect, an aesthetical preference. Presumably it'll be used as an excuse to jack up the fares.
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The only issue I have with the bendy bus is on the junction between Rosebery Av and Clerkenwell Road, the road is not designed for the bendy bus at all.
it's a little annoying that the bus become the Berlin Wall after crossing the junction but couldn't go further due to traffic at the light on Gary's Inn Road.
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This is Boris Johnson's one big contribution to London under his rule. Scrapping a bunch of buses years before they go out of date, in order to score cheap political points. What a tool.
...and the bombshell, that's why people like him, it's easy to get brownie point by scrapping something they don't like.
it's annoying when Boris didn't seemed to put much effort when it come to cycling thought.
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does seem a fucking massive waste of money. everything is cheap now and lasts for fuck all time, i swear that routemasters and the old trains on southern routes (forget their name) lasted for ages. and didn't have toilets that people couldn't use.
if you mean the old slam-door train (dunno about the toilet part), then yes they last forever, they can go on for 60,000 miles before they have to be serviced, the modern European train can only go 15-20,000 miles before it have to be serviced.
netherless the old slam-door train were slow, crowded, cramped, poor safety feature, inadequate braking, hot in summer, etc. the new one are so much better (especially the SWT one), quieter, faster, quicker, comfortable, plenty of room for bike, good amount of information etc.
even if it last forever it doesn't necessary mean it's better.
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First bendy buses meet their Waterloo
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Press release from TfL:
Bendy buses bow out on route 507, and Mayor confirms all bendy buses will be gone by 2011.
The Mayor's election pledge to banish bendy buses from the capital took a big step forwards today as the articulated juggernauts completed their final day of service on Route 507.
Nine bendy buses running the Waterloo to Victoria route are the first to be replaced. The Mayor also announced that the entire fleet of 396 buses will have left the capital by the end of 2011, four years ahead of schedule.
The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, said: "These writhing whales of the road have swung their hefty rear ends round our corners for the final time. Pedestrians that leapt, **cyclists that skidded **and drivers that dodged from the path of the 507 will breathe easier this weekend.
"Bendy buses on other routes are on borrowed time and I can confirm they will all have gone by 2011. Engineers will now scrape all traces of the capital from these first nine buses and next week they will be sent back to their spiritual home, an airfield in the midlands."
From tomorrow, Saturday 25 July, fifteen brand new, 12m single deck buses will run route 507 services. It is the first time a weekend service has been run on the route. The new buses will also run more frequently than their predecessors. At peak times the frequency of route 507 will increase from a bus every five minutes (12 buses per hour) to one every three to four minutes (18 buses per hour).
The new buses on route 507 are greener than their predecessors. They meet EEV standards, which means they emit less C02, Nox and particulates than the previous buses.
At the request of the Mayor, Transport for London (TfL) has begun negotiations with bus operators to remove bendy buses from the London Buses fleet before the end of 2011.