Predictions: Will most fixie tricksters get a coaster brake hub or freewheel one day?

I can't get my head around the idea of doing tricks on a fixed wheel bike. It just doesnt make sense to me. I've seen some pretty impressive shit but it is quite painful to watch people struggle to do airs and gaps because they can't get enough speed to go very high or very far. Additionally, the risk of getting stuck in toe straps when you fuck up a trick is pretty cringeworthy even to multiply-scarred, crash-hardened, ex-stuntmen like myself.

Obviously the benefit of fixed is that you don't need a rear brake, thus you don't have to worry about detanglement of cables every time you do a barspin. But the benefit of a freewheel outweighs this by about a million! It's a million times easier to hop, you can go faster, higher, you flow better, and so on. And with a coaster brake hub you dont need cables, and you can do stuff like barspin fufanu's if you really wanted to...

The fixed trick bikes are basically just overgrown BMX's with toe straps and lacking a ratchet in the drivetrain. I can see them becoming more and more like BMX's in future. Do you think freewheels or coaster brake hubs will become more popular amongst 700cMX riders?

I say yes... and I look forward to seeing people breaking free of the limitations of the fixed cog, and effortlessly getting 6 feet of air on a 700c bike.

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How does a freewheel make you go faster?

Well if it's anything like the development of bike polo where a lot of people have moved to freewheels to free themselves up for manoeuvrbility and positioning then yes, definitely... But there will still be purists who do it for the challenge...

How does a freewheel make you go faster?

I didnt say it 'makes' people go faster. Nevertheless, I think it's pretty obvious that a freewheel allows you to go faster for tricks. Seriously, it's not that hard to understand. Just try thinking about it for a moment. Watch a few videos if you still don't get it. It's easier for someone to understand it, than it is for me to word an explanation.

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Got to disagree with some of the points made though. Utter bollocks - hopping is harder on a bike with a freewheel? Bullshit. The only thing tying people to 700c is the fixed wheel? Bullshit again. Then some bollocks about brakes going against aesthetics... since when has aesthetics been more important than functionality when it comes to trick riding... actually, I know the answer to that one...

I didnt say it 'makes' people go faster. Nevertheless, I think it's pretty obvious that a freewheel allows you to go faster for tricks. Seriously, it's not that hard to understand. Just try thinking about it for a moment. Watch a few videos if you still don't get it. It's easier for someone to understand it, than it is for me to word an explanation.

I understand, i just dont see how its relivant.
Also i dont see how a coaster hub would work. Fixed isnt about not needing a back brake. It presents an interesting challenge and a bit of fun. Its also a change from bmx and 29'ers. If you put a freewheel on a track frame why not just ride a 29'er or something..

I understand, i just dont see how its relivant.
Also i dont see how a coaster hub would work. Fixed isnt about not needing a back brake. It presents an interesting challenge and a bit of fun. Its also a change from bmx and 29'ers. If you put a freewheel on a track frame why not just ride a 29'er or something..

the same reason why people who ride skateparks on a mountain bike dont think "if i'm going to do this then why dont i just ride a bmx bike or something." they have already bought the bike, and they proabably use it for other disciplines too. a freewheel costs £6. a brake, cable and lever costs £30. how much does a new 29" bike cost? more than £36 I think. unless you're a thieving cunt.

you seem to be missing the point of my post, which is that a freewheel would open up way more possibilities for tricks. which is way more interesting than the supposedly 'interesting challenge' that the limitations of a fixed cog presents you with.

why anyone would intentionally limit themselves is beyond comprehension.

maybe i've missed the point of the whole fixie trick thing, perhaps its all about image and not about possibilities.

fixed freestyle, or '770cmx' (pukes on cock), is flawed to fuck. take away the fixed wheel and what else is there? big, janky, weak as shit wheels? Every step taken to make fixed freestyle work (wider tyres, more spokes, stronger forks, high riser bars, flat pedals etc.) is a step towards... well... a BMX bike. It shouldn't be any more than a novelty clip at the end of a BMX video while the credits roll. Like standing up on a boogie-board or skiing on grass.

Just my opinion of course! I'm just bored of this inward-looking, internet-hyped, forced bullshit. I realise everyone desperately wants it to be the next big thing so that they can say they were there when it all started, but FFS it's nothing but a deformed hybrid.

Please excuse all the swear words and spite.

fixed freestyle, or '770cmx' (pukes on cock), is flawed to fuck. take away the fixed wheel and what else is there? big, janky, weak as shit wheels? Every step taken to make fixed freestyle work (wider tyres, more spokes, stronger forks, high riser bars, flat pedals etc.) is a step towards... well... a BMX bike. It shouldn't be any more than a novelty clip at the end of a BMX video while the credits roll. Like standing up on a boogie-board or skiing on grass.

Just my opinion of course! I'm just bored of this inward-looking, internet-hyped, forced bullshit. I realise everyone desperately wants it to be the next big thing so that they can say they were there when it all started, but FFS it's nothing but a deformed hybrid.

Please excuse all the swear words and spite.

look, there's nothing wrong with purposefully limiting yourself so that you can't ride as good as you possibly could! if people want to keep on struggling to do small, wobbly tricks because they're constantly forced to pedal, then let them be! who cares if they're denying themselves the ability to do bigger, better tricks?!!!!1 after all, its best to make things as difficult as possible, for yourself, because it's cool.

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right thats it ive actually changed my mind about the whole thing. i'm going to have the tubes of my bmx filled with sand to make it doubly heavy, so that i can't bunnyhop as high. then i'm going to put glue in the bearings so i can't go as fast. i'll deflate the tyres slightly so i can't do 180's or 360's without popping the tyre off the rim. it'll completely stop me from doing all the tricks ive learnt over the years but who cares, it's an interesting challenge and a bit of fun! woohoo!

Obviously the benefit of fixed is that you don't need a rear brake, thus you don't have to worry about detanglement of cables every time you do a barspin. But the benefit of a freewheel outweighs this by about a million!

you need a brake to ride bmx? you need big tricks to have fun? ok, your world ;)

right thats it ive actually changed my mind about the whole thing. i'm going to have the tubes of my bmx filled with sand to make it doubly heavy, so that i can't bunnyhop as high. then i'm going to put glue in the bearings so i can't go as fast. i'll deflate the tyres slightly so i can't do 180's or 360's without popping the tyre off the rim. it'll completely stop me from doing all the tricks ive learnt over the years but who cares, it's an interesting challenge and a bit of fun! woohoo!

I honestly can't tell if you're serious or not.

you need a brake to ride bmx? you need big tricks to have fun? ok, your world ;)

did i say "you need a brake to ride bmx", you bellend?

did i say "you need to do big tricks to have fun", you bellend?

sorry for resorting to petty insults but you actually are a bellend. well not literally a bellend but metaphorically. because you are blatantly twisting my words, ignoring what i'm actually saying, pretending that i've said something that i haven't.

just for the record, i actually ride bmx brakeless for the time being (only because i nicked the lever for my work bike). the only thing i cant do without a brake is fufanu's and abubacas

obvious troll is obvious.

Riding fixed does limit you but removing the fixed element also means there are other things you can't do. If your so against it don't do it. Honestly this argument is stupid you have your opinion and you are posting in fixed gear freestyle section of the forum about how it is retarded to do tricks on a fixxie skidder bike when most of the people posting in this section clearly think the opposite.

the only thing i cant do without a brake is fufanu's and abubacas

And stop before you crash into me at skate parks...

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obvious troll is obvious.

Riding fixed does limit you but removing the fixed element also means there are other things you can't do. If your so against it don't do it. Honestly this argument is stupid you have your opinion and you are posting in fixed gear freestyle section of the forum about how it is retarded to do tricks on a fixxie skidder bike when most of the people posting in this section clearly think the opposite.

And stop before you crash into me at skate parks...

huh? i'm not trolling, in fact i'm trying my best to be reasonable and positive (apart from the two sarcastic posts, but excuse me, i had - and still have - beer in me).

nowhere have i said i am against it, in fact i am trying to be more pro 700c trickery, hence me posting this thread in the first place.

again, you're putting words in my mouth.. i never said it is retarded to do tricks on a bike with a fixed wheel, what i actually said/implied is that it doesnt make sense to me, limiting what you can do, when you could do so much more with a freewheel... in my original post didn't insult or provoke anyone.

in fact what i actually said is there in post #1... but... ahh.. i can't be arsed to try and get a reasonable point across any more. too much idiocy, too much twisting of words. since no-one (apart from dangeruss) has provided an intelligent answer or discussion, then fuck it. i'll stick to me usual 'urban' forum hangout where there be intelligent people.

thank you dangeruss for posting the ONLY sensible response... sadly the twattery:sense ratio is much higher than i anticipated.

to the rest of ya, enjoy your backwards-moving, self-imposed, pointless limitations - while the rest of us enjoy that nice thing called progress. goodnight. (or should that be good morning)

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What tricks are possible with a fixed wheel that are not with a freewheel?

Multiple backwards circles are very difficult on a freewheel but other that I can't see much. Even I can manage one backwards circle on a freewheel. I suppose the trackstand tricks but they are a bit rubbish. I think if I had a fixed trick bike setup I'd run flip flop with a rear brake just for the extra fun /possibilities.

Riding backwards, I mean actually riding, not rolling, is only possible on fixed, fuck backward circles that shits pointless, and riding backwards opens up endless lines/possibilities that would not be possible with a freewheel :)

Pointless! but you're going backwards, in circle, don't you get it?

But how far are you going to ride backwards? Further than rolling backwards on a freecoaster?

for me its more the mix from speed and trick availability.
cant ride my freecoaster bmx to work, for shopping etc.

wheelie barspin shouldnt be possible with freewheel (only manual barspin) ok, not the point, too...

Pointless! but you're going backwards, in circle, don't you get it?

But how far are you going to ride backwards? Further than rolling backwards on a freecoaster?

Of course, I don't think it'll be long before we see a fixed rider (or several) busting out moves in a similar style to Ian Schwartz, throwing down sick tricks in a long flowing line whilst travelling backwards, fakie hops down stair sets etc.....big half cabs.....and so on.

and if we're talking about how far you can go backwards....well, i've done 3 laps of the Trixiedix car park before, and two laps whilst avoiding people and other moving bikes, and there are people that are better at riding fakie than me.

Oh and haven't we covered this subject like..........a MILLION TIMES ?