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I sold some forks in March to **humbert&co **http://www.londonfgss.com/member6187.html paid me with paypal, I posted the forks, then paypal withdraws the payment (something about the bank declining it or something).

Sent him a PM and he said he'd sort it and pay me. obviously he hasn't. His last activity was 4th of May, which is the same date of his last PM... new username no doubt.

I actually had forgotten about this, only remembered when reading the thread "forum buying advice". Not really bothered about the money (only £17) just annoying....

Just a warning to anyone dealing with a Ben O'Neill. :/

UPDATE: Now been resolved.

Surely our illustrious leader can view IP addresses to check if he has a new alias?

Always wondered about that due to home ADSL and a lot of office XDSL being allocated IP addresses dynamically i.e. whenever the router reboots you get a new IP address.

So according to my very limited understanding of this you could just reboot your router then log in with a new user ID and email address?

Or I could post his address.

Always wondered about that due to home ADSL and a lot of office XDSL being allocated IP addresses dynamically i.e. whenever the router reboots you get a new IP address.

So according to my very limited understanding of this you could just reboot your router then log in with a new user ID and email address?

Not sure how many ISPs keep static IPs. I know that was how Velocio banned a lot of the chinese spammers.

His postal address?

If you have his postal address, and his name, then send him a letter before action, requiring the payment in full, or you will initiate a claim against him in the local county court.

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Just noticed that it's only for £17. Even then, write the letter. And phone the police, report the incident as fraud, and obtain a crime reference number.
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That sounds like a lot of effort.

I say post his address and we all go over there with burning sticks and carrying rakes and gardening forks whilst chewing straw...

Always wondered about that due to home ADSL and a lot of office XDSL being allocated IP addresses dynamically i.e. whenever the router reboots you get a new IP address.

So according to my very limited understanding of this you could just reboot your router then log in with a new user ID and email address?

Been a long, long time since was lumbered with a dynamic IP but generally it'll allocate from a smallish pool based on which DHCP server is closest to you in the ISP's network topology. So you might not get the same IP, but you'll probably get one with only the few least-significant bits differing at most: not hard to spot. Many ISPs these days seem to dole out the same ISP to the same phone line/cable modem MAC for months at a time anyway. And bear in mind that, presuming you're using a fairly standard log format, you're looking for an IP address (or bits thereof)/user-agent tuple rather than just the address, which can be used to eliminate some proportion of innocent bystanders.

IP addresses are weak ass... I track users by implanting tracking devices.

Anyhow there is an alias, but it was never used and pre-dates the disappearance. Go the address route if you have it.

Not really much use now, but the way I avoid this kind of thing (and it would not work in this case, cause I only do if for £100 plus transactions), I put a little note that if paying by paypal, goods will not be dispatched until the money has cleared into my bank account. That way you know you have it before you send anything.

Hmmm. The plot thickens.

i love cluedo

Not really much use now, but the way I avoid this kind of thing (and it would not work in this case, cause I only do if for £100 plus transactions), I put a little note that if paying by paypal, goods will not be dispatched until the money has cleared into my bank account. That way you know you have it before you send anything.

Paypal could still reverse it though.

Paypal could still reverse it though.

It seems weird to me that paypal would take the money away from the innocent party. It's not your fault that his bank declined the payment to paypal, after all.

-1 to paypal for being harsh to sellers!

I am pretty sure they don't credit your account until they have cleared the payment.

Once it has been paid into your account, paypal can't take it back. They have to request you to give it them back. Paypal cannot take money direct from your account.

I am pretty sure they don't credit your account until they have cleared the payment.

Once it has been paid into your account, paypal can't take it back. They have to request you to give it them back. Paypal cannot take money direct from your account.

You should read the small print!

I sold some forks in March to **humbert&co **http://www.londonfgss.com/member6187.html paid me with paypal, I posted the forks, then paypal withdraws the payment (something about the bank declining it or something).

Sent him a PM and he said he'd sort it and pay me. obviously he hasn't. His last activity was 4th of May, which is the same date of his last PM... new username no doubt.

That was me.

Unless you have linked your bank acount or set up a direct debit, they can't take anything.

send him a poo in the post

humbert and co in the chatroom with a pair of forks
or
mr mustard in the library with a candlestick

it's 50:50 just can't decide

Unless you have linked your bank acount or set up a direct debit, they can't take anything.

They are known for it.

Why would a firm of estate agents want a £17 fork?

Its for some crazy cutlery set they have for gala dinners and rituals.

send him a poo in the post

Best idea of the lot. Fuck the £17, get revenge.