Tool/method to remove old Tange BB

Hi guys,

does anyone know of a tool or a technique of removing this type of BB?

most of what i can find/have read refers to using a pin spanner but this obviously requires a different sort of tool.

This is my first post by the way and my first amaturish question is when i fit a new BB (probably a shimano un54) do i need to replace the threaded parts that are sticking out of the BB (the threads that the cranks are tightened to)? is it some kind of Axle?

ta for any responses

skinny

check out sheldon:
http://sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/bbcups.html

a pin spanner would work on that too.

or a mallet & a large punch

does anyone on the highstreet sell those pin spanners?

I expect most local bike shops would.

Evans do. But better to give your business to some independent bike shop if possible.

Personally I've never used one always managed with a punch and hammer.

i tried using a flat head screw driver, hammer and WD40, no joy though, can't see the pin spanner giving me much more leverage but has to be worth a try

They do get seized on old bikes. A decent punch and decent sized hammer (I've seen people using tak hammers, usless) would have more luck than a pin spanner on a seized b.b IMO, but like I've said I've never used a pin spanner but I know people who have not been able to move a b.b with a pin spanner but succeeded with a punch and hammer.

and am i right in thinking it is going to be a conventional thread?

If it's a English b.b (68 mm shell width) then drive side is LH thread, RH thread on non-drive side.
If it's a Italian b.b (68 mm shell width) then drive side is RH thread, RH thread on non-drive side.
Raleigh had a few strange widths which will make find a replacement b.b dam near impossible but they follow the British threading convention.
More b.b withs and threading info on Sheldon's site, including French and Swiss.

thanks for the advice thebrick, ive got it off, it did need a bit of a whack with the hammer and punch, now to try sheldons tool to remove the fixed cup...

Removing the fixed cup is always the hardest bit, you might want to apply gentle heat to the face of the cup (small chefs blowtorches are superb) this will certainly aid removal. These older cups can be a nightmare but the cheapest method is to buy one of those old bike multi spanners that you see at car boots/ebay all the time. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BICYCLE-BIKE-VINTAGE-COLLECTORS-SPANNER-OLD-TOOLS_W0QQitemZ220414896621QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR?hash=item3351c069ed&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A3%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A100

The widest bit fits the cups perfectly.

thanks for the info Mr Bump, the sheldon home made tool worked fine though.

i was surprised how easy it was to remove, must of got lucky.

I'm moving onto that method to get one one out today, even my 16inch adjustable wrench wont shift it..grrr