Hit and run cyclist

Another example of why to not undertake.

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fucking cyclists, hate the lot of them!

Least he was wearing a helmet, the sign of a good safe cyclist.

someone piped up in the comments section with the amazing idea of all cyclists having number plates. HAR HAR HAR! i bloody love it when people suggest that to me. i pour my bucket of scorn all over them satisfyingly.

whats so hard about just doing things right. idiot cyclist, idiot woman.

hahaha the number plates idea is classic.

its the only solution.

whats so hard about just doing things right. idiot cyclist, idiot woman.

Can't really see how she was at fault, from what I understand she was getting off a bus, the cyclist decided to undertake the bus while stopped (monumentally stupid idea of fucktard proportions) and hit her, she wouldn't've seen him coming.

Aye - the bus driver could probably stand to stop at the actual kerb though. It's maddening when they don't bother to pull into the bus stop and block the road instead, and it's then that the terminally clueless try to undertake them.

To be fair, if that's the case, I still can't think of how the bus driver is to blame, I mean (s)he shouldn't have to stop closer to the kerb so that idiots don't try to cut up the inside of them, in my experience the bus drivers in London (well, west London at least) are very good and very accommodating of cyclists, in comparision to other cities at least.

Oh, I'm not really blaming the driver - if the incident is as described* the fault is all with the cyclist.

However, when stopping by the side of the road it's both more considerate and safer to stop **right by the side of the road, irrespective of the type of vehicle. It avoids blocking more of the road than necessary and makes it unambiguous which side is safe(r) to pass. If one's job is driving a very large vehicle that stops by the side of the road a very great deal I'd have thought this would be fairly obvious. Agreed that London bus drivers are a world better than the rest of the country's though (Cambridge being a possible exception).

*and that may not be a safe assumption
** really, really unambiguous - there are a lot of arseclowns out there like the cyclist in this incident. Some of them are on scooters, and I've seen them try this too.

dorktard!

Oh, I'm not really blaming the driver - if the incident is as described* the fault is all with the cyclist.

However, when stopping by the side of the road it's both more considerate and safer to stop **right by the side of the road, irrespective of the type of vehicle. It avoids blocking more of the road than necessary and makes it unambiguous which side is safe(r) to pass. If one's job is driving a very large vehicle that stops by the side of the road a very great deal I'd have thought this would be fairly obvious. Agreed that London bus drivers are a world better than the rest of the country's though (Cambridge being a possible exception).

*and that may not be a safe assumption
** really, really unambiguous - there are a lot of arseclowns out there like the cyclist in this incident. Some of them are on scooters, and I've seen them try this too.

Yeah I completely agree with you there, I just hate reading about incidents like this because it's numpty cyclists like that that will make it necessary to have some sort of licence/insurance scheme compulsory for cyclists in an attempt to keep people like this off the road, and none of us want that.

Yeah I completely agree with you there, I just hate reading about incidents like this because it's numpty cyclists like that that will make it necessary to have some sort of licence/insurance scheme compulsory for cyclists in an attempt to keep people like this off the road, and none of us want that.

Can we please not get carried away about the very small degree of road danger presented by users of pedal cycles?

This is a regrettable incident as the cyclist put himself in the wrong twice. However, such incidents are vanishingly rare and there is certainly no prospect of them ever causing any kind of licensing scheme for cyclists, which would at any rate be unworkable. (This comes up every few years, by the way. It's one of the most regularly annoying old chestnuts.)

Oh I know this is a rare thing, what I was trying to say is there are a lot of people who would make a big deal out of incidents like this (like the time the girl was hit by a cyclist and killed), and there's a possiblity that this could lead to them trying to solve it with something as unworkable (like you said) as some sort of licensing scheme. Hopefully more cyclists will take up the offer of cycling training that people such as yourself promote.

Hopefully more cyclists will take up the offer of cycling training that people such as yourself promote.

..........or face the wrath of the wvm...............

there's a possiblity that this could lead to them trying to solve it with something as unworkable (like you said) as some sort of licensing scheme.

Fortunately, that is not a realistic possibility in any way.

Can't really see how she was at fault, from what I understand she was getting off a bus, the cyclist decided to undertake the bus while stopped (monumentally stupid idea of fucktard proportions) and hit her, she wouldn't've seen him coming.

i know she wasn't really at fault but when i read it i was thinking that if it was me i would check before getting off the bus if a cyclist was coming.. you have to be prepared for stupidity. although i now realise that she probably doesn't cycle in the city alot and doesn't think like i do.

anyway even if the cyclist was shaken up and didn't want to suffer the consequences that was a fucking THICK thing to do breezing away like that! although maybe not as stupid as undertaking the bus in the first place..

Sure the cyclist is a twat and should have stayed but how many people were killed by drivers this week? One of them killed an 11 year old and fled the scene..

I think we all agree that this cyclist took a stupid, unnecessary risk and a horrible decision to ride away, maybe took off through shock (not condoning his actions), but recently

a taxi stops in traffic four feet from the kerb, and the passenger gets out suddenly on the nearside where a cycle lane is clearly marked and knocks me for six.. i really feel it.. luckily no real damage to me or bike.. I wasn't and still don't wear a helmet around town.. what can i say, did the driver not have time to see me, and warn his passenger? was i travelling too fast? i reckon the passenger said to the driver 'I'll get out here thanks'.. doors unlock, click, bang..

It is tough, we all have to assess every encounter on the road as potentially dangerous, as motorcyclists are trained to observe and avoid unnecessary risk taking.

On the subject of undertaking buses, it happens to me alarmingly frequently that a bus stuck in traffic, right in the middle of the road, nowhere near the kerb and near to but metres away from even reaching a bus stop will open its doors without any warning while I'm cycling past it on the inside. This seems very dangerous, because cyclists are legitimately allowed to filter through traffic and buses doing that, meaning people spilling out into what is essentially the middle of a road with possible traffic on it, is hardly a sensible thing.

“According to one of the witnesses he said stuff the ambulance, stuff her health, I’m off.

classic... seems almost like a wind up.

i know she wasn't really at fault but when i read it i was thinking that if it was me i would check before getting off the bus if a cyclist was coming.. you have to be prepared for stupidity. although i now realise that she probably doesn't cycle in the city alot and doesn't think like i do.

No. There is no way that bus passengers should have to look out for cyclists coming along the nearside of a bus. In the case of a cyclist filtering along there, the cyclist has an obligation to watch out for doors opening and passengers emerging. Generally speaking, cyclists should not be in this position at all.

On the subject of undertaking buses, it happens to me alarmingly frequently that a bus stuck in traffic, right in the middle of the road, nowhere near the kerb and near to but metres away from even reaching a bus stop will open its doors without any warning while I'm cycling past it on the inside. This seems very dangerous, because cyclists are legitimately allowed to filter through traffic and buses doing that, meaning people spilling out into what is essentially the middle of a road with possible traffic on it, is hardly a sensible thing.

If it happens with alarming frequency, you should by now have got used to it. It is unlikely to change, so adapt your riding style accordingly. See my previous post.

If it happens with alarming frequency, you should by now have got used to it. It is unlikely to change, so adapt your riding style accordingly. See my previous post.

There is no way you can predict a bus letting passengers off when not at a bus stop, what if the bus has overtaken you already.. and you find yourself nearside when you catch up?.. especially those fcuked up bendy buses who can't get closer than four feet to a kerb.