Mash / Cinelli Vigorelli

Okay. Still I don't get why one would prefer rear brake to front brake.

And wtf is wrong with these people ^ ??

^ cos he did not want to drill his DSC painted fork.

Aint nothing wrong with them, they are just from California... Where people are happy. :)

how deep are they?

88 rear/60 front.

Walton's brake caliper on the back is strictly for show here. No lever/pads/cable should give that away...

i do realise this andy, was just showing you can drill them.

^^^ ready predrilled fawk?

Yea, I thought I heard they were pre-drilled, plugged, and painted.
He haz spezial fork paint though.

what is dat silver/chrome fork on that mash? or is it just repainted carbon one?

Guessing it's an Alpina done by DSC.

don't look like alpinas, probably the columbus ones that come with the mash

Hey look at my Vigorelli bicycle.

I've just bought a Vigorelli - totally uncharted territory for me as i've always had older bikes. It's a difficult frame to get looking right in my opinion, the sloping top tube completely messes with the flow of it.

Unfamiliar with modern components so would ask if anyone knows the make and model of this saddle?

Looks like it might be a San Marco Aspide.

Thanks for that, just done a google search and i think you're spot on.

No problem.

Vigorelli is a gorgeous frame and possibly one of the best rides you'll ever experience.

Congrats on your new frame; please keep us posted about the build.

Vigorelli is a gorgeous frame and possibly one of the best rides you'll ever experience if you never ridden any kind of bicycle before

ftfy you big troll.

You're just pissed off that it;s fast and lacks clearance for mudguards...

Actually I'd go for the Vigorelli than the MASH, the latter is all wrong for me.

Vigorelli is a gorgeous frame and possibly one of the best rides you'll ever experience.

Congrats on your new frame; please keep us posted about the build.

I will do. I bought the frame second hand and the components will be likewise. I'll be building it on a really tight budget. It's a completely new venture and right now i'm still not sure i've done the right thing - i don't want it to be a slave of labels or HHSB whatever it's called. Right now all i'm thinking is radially lacing the front rim to balance out the sloping top tube and stem and bars to give a more nose down look without sacrificing practicality. Tough ask, if i can't do that i'll probably move it on and resort back to type - i'm already uncomfortable with how shiny the thing is :S

Anyone hazard a guess at the bars Mickey Mouse is using above?

They don't stay shiny long.

You don't want it to branded as a HHSB yet want to run radical lacing to sort out the appearance.

^ this

Name a single positive of radial lacing.

Slightly lighter, slightly stiffer*, slightly better aerodynamics... Looks I suppose, if you're so inclined, which personally I'm not. And they're easier to build if you're a novice in terms of wheel building.

*Not necessarily a desirable quality.

All gazumped by the higher likelihood of failure, and looking silly with high spoke count?

I'm maybe biased, previously had a radial wheel fold on me mid corner...

I thought the radial lacing would be picked up on - fair enough, points noted - particularly TM's. As i said, it's a thought at this stage, i'll more than likely be ruled by what wheelsets come up second hand. That said, if it was the only nod towards HHSB on the bike i could live with it, i wouldn't back track. Truthfully? I think there are some absolute abominations of this bike but i bought the frame because it was cheap and i'm looking to put the whole thing together for around £350-400.