Dawes Messenger Bag

Anyone have one of these? Are they any good? Sounds too good (cheap) to be true....

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=32318

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how bad can it be for a tenner!

Its certainly not in the Messenger Bags List thread. But the comedic pricing so defies belief, that I'm wondering if its a typo.
That said, it doesn't look very sturdy, and how could it? Possibly best for transporting sandwiches, and or, make-up?

they also do a computer bag for £14
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=12905

beggars belief doesnt it! Ok, in the spirit of research I will order one and report back !

that computer bag is awesome, portable work station. geek central.

Well it arrived - not bad at all - pretty rugged (given the price), has a chest strap and looks at least water repellent. 3 internal pockets stiched inside, enough room for a medium sized laptop / A4 paperwork and a few odds and sods.... for a tenner - not bad at all -if you are after something for occasional / light use - worth the money...

Well it arrived - not bad at all - pretty rugged (given the price), has a chest strap and looks at least water repellent. 3 internal pockets stiched inside, enough room for a medium sized laptop / A4 paperwork and a few odds and sods.... for a tenner - not bad at all -if you are after something for occasional / light use - worth the money...

This might be controversial, but I'm choosing not to list this bag in the Messenger Bags thread. I can't believe that either child labour, or at least indentured labour wasn't used to create this bag. True, in such countries, some pay is better than none at all, but a bag for 10 quid is just so cheap as to be a dubious in its manufacture. I think whoever buys them, good luck to them, but next there will be "courier bags" for under a fiver.

A small matter of principle. Anyone therefore wishing to take me on in the debate on Capitalism versus Socialism, aim well, ...because I am rather a crack shot.

That's a good point Ash, and considering the profit is usually high, let says an £6 profit, therefore the bag was only made for £4!!

child labour? there's no doubt that it's quite sketchy.

This might be controversial, but I'm choosing not to list this bag in the Messenger Bags thread. I can't believe that either child labour, or at least indentured labour wasn't used to create this bag. True, in such countries, some pay is better than none at all, but a bag for 10 quid is just so cheap as to be a dubious in its manufacture. I think whoever buys them, good luck to them, but next there will be "courier bags" for under a fiver.

A small matter of principle. Anyone therefore wishing to take me on in the debate on Capitalism versus Socialism, aim well, ...because I am rather a crack shot.

without child labour developing countries would fall to pieces even more so than they are already, they need it to survive and pay back the debt that western countries refuse to remove. Take away the small amount of money that these children earn and you take away their life lines. Although i disagree with child labour in many cases it is not a problem that can be sorted immediatly by just boycotting the goods, everyone says that these children should be in school but unless the income that they recieve while working is replaced their families will suffer and most likely die as the childrens income often supports elderly relatives.

I have witnessed this first hand in Bolivia and Peru. Also who are we to judge the way another country functions? if the conditions are ok in the factory then I would rather see them work there than starve on the street, education is of no use if your family are dying in order for you to attend, and the qualifications mean jack shit because your skin color is at the wrong end of the spectrum (in peru I have actually seen a chart which dictated who was allowed into an establishment and who was not depending on how dark their skin was as the darker you are the more hard labour outside in the sun you do and therefore the lower socio economic group you are in their opinion) . I dont want an argument (cue 4 pages) but there are two sides to the child labour argument, it is a tough one and I can argue both sides as strongly as each other.

I can't condone the bag, but I can't condemn it either.

I hail from The Isle of Spice (google it), and have lived in Barbados, Trinidad, and Cameroon, so the Third World is something I know. I think only Haiti has child labour in the Caribbean, but Africa has it intrenched in its socio-polical fabric. It may be far more hidden though, than India for example.

Still, at 10 quid, it will find buyers, but I'm not putting any bag of less than 30GBP on that thread.....as it just seems suspect. Don't get me wrong, I'm not Mr.OTP for nothing. I bought the Bowery because its cheaper, and promote cheaper above custom. But super-cheap needs no advertising....witness Primark.

Primark a diease, kinda going back what Nike managed to go forward (Nike now being ethical compared to a couple decade ago).

This might be controversial, but I'm choosing not to list this bag in the Messenger Bags thread. I can't believe that either child labour, or at least indentured labour wasn't used to create this bag. True, in such countries, some pay is better than none at all, but a bag for 10 quid is just so cheap as to be a dubious in its manufacture. I think whoever buys them, good luck to them, but next there will be "courier bags" for under a fiver.

A small matter of principle. Anyone therefore wishing to take me on in the debate on Capitalism versus Socialism, aim well, ...because I am rather a crack shot.
In all the "enthusiasm" to find out just what you get for a tenner I rather forgot the fact that some poor bugger had to make this, then the distributors have to take their cut before I got my bargain.

fwiw it was reduced from £15 but i know that makes no odds.

feeling rather guilty now - anyway thanks for the reality check

In all the "enthusiasm" to find out just what you get for a tenner I rather forgot the fact that some poor bugger had to make this, then the distributors have to take their cut before I got my bargain.

fwiw it was reduced from £15 but i know that makes no odds.

feeling rather guilty now - anyway thanks for the reality check

Bad Bad person........ I will help you alleviate your guilt, you can give the bag to me......

As Guerillaphoto rightly says, someone does get paid for this, and it is better than being hungry, with no income.

There's always a price to pay, somewhere along the line.

I got one of these, they are really good for the price, for a poor crazy overdrawn student such as myself who cannot afford to shell out 50 quid for a decent bag. I'm not saying the cheap labour and what not is right, but hey, at least if I buy one someone will get paid more than if no one bought one at all.

Any idea what the capacity in litres is?

So I asked them why it's so cheap before I bought one.

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[/SIZE][/FONT]and then I bought one. I can confirm they have 'cut back slightly'. It's feels like the proper cheap bag it is. Will let you know how long it lasts if interested.
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