New Cycling forum

The evening standard have, today, launched a new cycling forum. I know the paper is right wing scum and most of its journalisits are wankers. But it is read by many people and it may do some good.

http://cycle.standard.co.uk/

Their charter starts off on the wrong foot IMO:

[]A real cycle network across London
[]Better cycle lanes with proper segregation
[]Enforcement of special advanced stop lines for cyclists
[]HGVs to be fitted with special cyclist safety mirrors
[]Compulsory cyclist awareness training for all bus drivers and new HGV drivers
[]Cycle-friendly streets: fewer oneway systems that funnel cyclists into the middle of traffic
[]More cycle parking across London
[]Police crackdown on bike theft
[]Make safe the Thames bridges: some of the most dangerous places for cyclists
[]Campaign to alert self-employed that they can claim a 20p-a-mile cycling allowance against tax
[]Better cycle-bus-rail co-ordination: adequate parking at stations
[]Cycle training for all children and any adult who wants it

Anti-thieves article? Check
How to get fitter when cycling? Check
Helmet debate? Check
Why do people hate cyclists article? Check

They're going to run out of topics soon unless they start trawling our forum :)

Aweuninspiring.

Their charter starts off on the wrong foot IMO:

Only the second point is truly worth dissenting from, surely?

I had a feeling it would not be well received.
I have noticed an increase in cyclists already this week, now the weather is clearly improving. I can't wait for the bright evenings ahead

They need a Lance Armstrong thread too :)

Only the second point is truly worth dissenting-from, surely?

Yes, but the initial focus on a cycle network and cycle routes suggests (to me) that there is nowhere to cycle at the moment... as if the roads aren't suitable for cyclists as it is.
I think some of the other points could be placed first and perhaps emphasised.

I'm out of this thread before Oliver tears me apart.

I don't like this bit: "segregation".

The roads are mine as much as any driver.
I probably pay more tax and I'm less of a burden on the planet.

I responded to the why do people hate cyclists article.

am I being a spaz, but I can't find the forum?

I had a feeling it would not be well received.
I have noticed an increase in cyclists already this week, now the weather is clearly improving. I can't wait for the bright evenings ahead

Yep this morning was CLEARLY the earlybird nodder watershed, they were all out today. One decent warmer day (yesterday) and back out they come.

Yes, but the initial focus on a cycle network and cycle routes suggests (to me) that there is nowhere to cycle at the moment... as if the roads aren't suitable for cyclists as it is.
I think some of the other points could be placed first and perhaps emphasised.

I'm out of this thread before Oliver tears me apart.

Good point Prav. Yep. And watch out for Mr Logic. He'll get all statistical on yo ass. (This place would be poorer with him though. Love you Schickster.)

... as if the roads aren't suitable for cyclists as it is.

a lot of the central roads aren't suitable for cyclists as they are. nothing to do with cycle paths though, more to do with massive chunks of road missing all over the place.

I responded to the why do people hate cyclists article.

"cant ride for toffees"
A classic expression, well used :)

"will ride for toffees"

I'm less of a burden on the planet.

there is always a big dent on it where you've been tho

I thought that the Standard was written for and read by people who commuted by train to the outer suburbs. Certainly very difficult to read on a bike and, as riding a bike is not so boring to require one to delve into the neo nazi nonsense that is The Standard (sister paper to The Mail) not really something for cyclists to bother with. Noticeable that their first piece is about why "people" (for which presumably read "Standard readers") hate cyclists.

Tapped that one up nice and high for the spike didn't I? :)

I don't like this bit: "segregation".

The roads are mine as much as any driver.
I probably pay more tax and I'm less of a burden on the planet.

• 1. That stuck out like a sore thumb. My council fucken tax bill is huge...and I do not drive.
  
  

Just had a look at the site. It is utter wank. Avoid.

I pay vehicle excise duty ("road tax") on two cars but when cycling drive neither. Does this mean that I am able to occupy two lanes of the road with my bicycle?

" fewer oneway systems that funnel cyclists into the middle of traffic "

This would be a good thing surely??

I pay vehicle excise duty ("road tax") on two cars but when cycling drive neither. Does this mean that I am able to occupy two lanes of the road with my bicycle?

yes

I had an article on cycling published in the Standard once. My name was on it and everything. I should probably be culled immediately

God. You are all so cynical!

The daily mail have their own agenda, there can be no doubt about that. Perhaps one of their journalists is about to open their own bike shop or something. Who knows.

But anything that promotes cycling has to be good surely. Although, this may mean there are more fuckers getting in my way on my morning commute/race that I have to take down grrrrrr ;)

Cynical for a reason, the Standard have a godawful history of publishing complete nonsense about cycling. Where is Oliver? Oliver, sort the thread out.