Locks

Has anyone heard of one of these Abus locks being defeated?

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Abus_Granit_Steel_O_Flex_1000_100cm_Cable_Lock/5220000043/

I use one as a courier and mine has been attacked with cutters - only went through the plastic cover and left a puny scratch. I'm about to start using a nicer bike and wondered if I was using a good enough lock..? Experiences? Rumours? Ta.

Cosmonaut, do a search for "Locks".....as a title.

Unfortunately only the best D-locks pass the toughest of the security tests. Cable locks fail.

Yeah I shoulda searched first really, but it seems so unspontaneous..

I think the ability to lock my cable around most street furniture, posts, small trees, my waist, etc, and its decent performance in tests does it for me above D-locks. I keep seeing lever marks on D-locks, although that shows they're undefeated. This cable is shielded by hardened steel.
I guess there's not much in it between this lock and the top D-locks. Spose I've answered my own question again.

an abus granit is about as resistant to an angle grinder as a top quality single sided D lock. in practical terms that means about 2-5 minutes to cut it. I wouldn't rate it as highly as a NY fag D as these require 2 cuts to release, but then on the other hand it cannot be defeated by the freezing / bottle jack method. It is not as resistant to bolt croppers compared with a decent D lock, but seems to be as good as most chains, with the exception of possibly boron alloy case hardened square link ones.

certainly it is a very practical lock which matters when you're choosing which lock you take out with you - chains are a pain in the ass to use imo.

It's a good lock for medium/high security areas. it's an excellent lock when combined with a mini-d.

Fred you know your shit. Respect.

i like cutting things :-0

stating obvious There is no lock that is undefeatable. I had an Abus Granit X-Plus d-lock (£50) - one of the very highest rated on the market - and came out of my house one morning to find it in pieces & the bike gone. It had been cut through like the proverbial knife through butter. The bike was locked up in the front garden directly beneath our bedroom, so whoever did it was very quick and quiet. So it's all relative.

Should've kept the bike indoors.

I keep mine in the bed with me.

I use the abus city chain and (touch wood) it serves me well.

It does lock around a wider variety of things which is nice. Its heavy though, which doesn't bother me, but if you're trying to save precious lbs off your bike its a bit pointless.

Make sure you know how to lock your bike properly and always lock it beside a less secure, more desirable bike.

Peace

YouTube - Various Sold Secure and Thatcham chains chopped.

stating obvious There is no lock that is undefeatable. I had an Abus Granit X-Plus d-lock (£50) - one of the very highest rated on the market - and came out of my house one morning to find it in pieces & the bike gone. It had been cut through like the proverbial knife through butter. The bike was locked up in the front garden directly beneath our bedroom, so whoever did it was very quick and quiet. So it's all relative.

almost without doubt this will have been done using hydraulic cutting equipment. it's pretty much silent, doesn't require power (the hydraulics are pumped using a lever like a car jack), and it's very powerful.
these things are scary, as you say there's nothing you can do to prevent a thief who's carrying one of these from stealing your bike.

be very afraid.

luckily the hydraulic cutters aren't terribly inexpensive.

luckily the hydraulic cutters aren't terribly inexpensive.

you need to steal in order to steal bigger stuff.

Not to jinx myself, but I can't believe what you Brits put up with in terms of bicycle theft and dangerous encounters with motorists.

it just sound worse than it is really, it easy to hate car if one of them hit you in the rear as oppose to hundreds of them overtaking you sensibly.

Not to jinx myself, but I can't believe what you Brits put up with in terms of bicycle theft and dangerous encounters with motorists.

This is London my friend.

Not to jinx myself, but I can't believe what you Brits put up with in terms of bicycle theft and dangerous encounters with motorists.

It's funny, 'cos we can't believe what you Americans put up with in terms of the latter, where motorists seem to have a blatant disregard for cyclists. Especially as it's almost unheard of for a UK motorist to be armed, in the US you just don't know do you?

You put up with what you're used to.

luckily the hydraulic cutters aren't terribly inexpensive.

£1000.

It's funny, 'cos we can't believe what you Americans put up with in terms of the latter, where motorists seem to have a blatant disregard for cyclists. Especially as it's almost unheard of for a UK motorist to be armed, in the US you just don't know do you?

You put up with what you're used to.

Haha... in Boston you can probably go with the presumption that they aren't armed (very strict gun laws). Heck I was a messenger for almost 5 years and, while it got hairy from time to time, I never had anyone pull any kind of weapon on me.

Masshole drivers don't have a blatant disregard for cyclists, they have a blatant disregard for everyone. But like you said, you can get used to anything. Honestly in the city the real problem is jaywalking pedestrians... I should add that they just passed new pro-cyclist laws here.

It just sounds like cyclists in London are gambling with their lives (and their rides) every time they step outside!

PS: I realize this isn't an issue at hand, but freelocking (wheel to frame) your bike even when somewhere ostensibly secure wouldn't help cut down on theft?

Honestly in the city the real problem is jaywalking pedestrians... I should add that they just passed new pro-cyclist laws here.

it shouldn't be a problem at all, just deal with it, we have people crossing the road too, but there's no law on it, they have the right of way.

boston is hicksville small city. london is the big smoke and has proper criminals.

boston is hicksville small city. london is the big smoke and has proper criminals.

because they have knife they took from their mother's kitchen drawer??

they have hydraulic cutting equipment they stole from the fire station

they have hydraulic cutting equipment they stole from the fire station

Thats what the police told me when I had my Condor stolen in 2004.

boston is hicksville small city. london is the big smoke and has proper criminals.

Heh... ok so we're a 10th the population... our criminals just don't seem to bother with bicycles (that's for crackheads and jerks).