32h hub, hybrid crows foot lacing?

looking to get a wheel built with hybrid crow's foot lacing, everything i've read about the pattern has been complimentary and i fancy something different.

i've got a 32h gran comphe high flange hub and mavic open pro rims.

how do i work out what length spokes i need, guessing there'll be some that are longer than others (radial shorter than crows foot cross ones)?

is your average wheel builder (few small LBS in Manchester plus and evans and a edinburgh cycles) gonna bitch when i mention i want it laced that way and is it likely to cost me more?

Also is it much cheaper for me to source the spokes myself or just use the ones they have in the shop? After black ones, happy with silver nipples though.

crows foot lacing wont work with 32 spokes. Think about it: the spokes are in groups of 3, 3 doesn't go into 32. You need a 36 hole setup really.

crows foot lacing wont work with 32 spokes. Think about it: the spokes are in groups of 3, 3 doesn't go into 32. You need a 36 hole setup really.

that's why the post is about hybrid crow's foot.... its crows foot/radial hybrid lacing, ideal build for 32h

oh wow, that's pretty cool, haven't seen that one before. your best bet is taking that diagram into yor lbs, and letting them sort the rest out for you. they'll use good quality spokes too, I imagine. My lbs use dtswiss, and you have the option of black or silver, and plain guage or double butted.

I just built a hybrid crow's foot this afternoon. Phil Wood front hub on a Mavic CXP33. I used radial and 2-cross lengths. A drop of linseed oil on the threads. It's a rebuild from a previously pringled rim.

Just use spocalc to work out the lengths or edd, ehren fried chicken's online web app. The radial length may be referred to as zero cross. And you'll need 2-cross too.

Cyclebasket do black spokes singly at only 29p each. The thing with black spokes when ordering them yourself is that online bike shops tend to do only a small range of lengths. So you may not be able to find the one that you are looking for.

Make sure that the radial spoke is on top of the other two that cross.

Have fun.

oh wow, that's pretty cool, haven't seen that one before. your best bet is taking that diagram into yor lbs, and letting them sort the rest out for you. they'll use good quality spokes too, I imagine. My lbs use dtswiss, and you have the option of black or silver, and plain guage or double butted.

i will be taking the diagram in, just wanted to know more about it as i know others on here have built up similar wheels, so am looking to them to give me an idea of the specifics of the particular lacing style. wanna understand it first rather than just leaving it all up to the bike shop

I just built a hybrid crow's foot this afternoon. Phil Wood front hub on a Mavic CXP33. I used radial and 2-cross lengths. A drop of linseed oil on the threads. It's a rebuild from a previously pringled rim.

Just use spocalc to work out the lengths or edd, ehren fried chicken's online web app. The radial length may be referred to as zero cross. And you'll need 2-cross too.

Cyclebasket do black spokes singly at only 29p each. The thing with black spokes when ordering them yourself is that online bike shops tend to do only a small range of lengths. So you may not be able to find the one that you are looking for.

Make sure that the radial spoke is on top of the other two that cross.

Have fun.

cool, thanks for your help, was looking at spocalc but had no idea how to input the lacing style will give it a go now, hopefully the spoke lengths aren't too odd to get black ones....

Yeah on the calculator tab of spoke calc you can read of the respective lengths for each of the crossings.

I bought my spokes and nipples from bike doc (Dickenson Rd) and once laced, took it back to them to true. This was a 32H 2 leading 2 trailing wheel. They did finish it off for me :-)

Oh, round up the spokes to the nearest (odd I think for Sapim?? - could be BS, can't recall) mm.