Tweed run backup plan

Ok so heres the deal.
Trying to build up my pennine frame as my first fixed conversion for the tweed run but got a few things working against me. The main one being cash.

The headset needs a spacer(i think it had a centrepull hanger before) and theres no bottom bracket fitted. The headset also needs rebuilding as theres some play.
Have seatpost that fits.

Bars, stem and brakes not a problem.

Rear wheel needs bearings sorted, flip flop hub with fixed cog one side and knackered 5speed freewheel on the other. May leave the 5speed on in case i cant get used to riding fixed in time for next sat. Hopefully will be able to set my chainline so that i can flip if needs be and that one of the cogs will line up ok.

So, need bottom bracket cups(have a set but raleigh thread), have cottered cranks and pedals. And to sort the headset.

However,

I also have another frame(a Dayton) with an in-tact and working headset and bottom bracket. but with fucked cottered cranks. it also weighs loads more. Would it be worth plundering the bottom bracket and headset spacers from this one for the pennine? Both frames are 50's/60's and not raleigh so theres a chance the bb might fit the pennine.
Or build this frame up fixed, just replacing the fucked cranks with the ones originally destined for the pennine.

OR.

Fit fixed wheel to currently running carlton 5speed. have already mocked this up but the frame weighs slightly more than europe. The main advantage is everything works on it so its just a wheel/chain swap, done in 5mins but on the crappiest frame.

Have box of parts, just not the bb or headset spacer(have spacer on carlton but being used as centrepull hanger, also may have spacer on Dayton frame) but reckon i could build up the pennine or dayton frame only having to steal the front wheel off the carlton. Would ideally use the pennine frame as its light and shiny but would require the most work. Is the Carlton likely to have a standard english bb or could it be raleigh seeing as the frame is early 70's?
Got some time booked in at sargent and co tomorrow to get the wheel sorted at least. Just got to work out which is easiest as i have few tools and barely the money to spend on time with rob chopping and changing parts.

Long post, possibly meaningless. Just trying to get some ideas as which route is best.
Pennine=best frame/most work
Dayton=2nd choice frame/some work
Carlton=3rd choice frame/very little work/would rather keep as 5speed.

Carlton was a division of Raleigh, so yes - the same English standard thread.

take the path of least resistance. life is too short.

i will take part on saturday even if i am riding my nephews mountain bike with stabilisers and my mums tweed overcoat.

That the thing, have a raleigh(i think) bb going spare, threads are clean and freshly greased and so are the ones on the pennine frame but doesnt appear to fit? Drive side goes in a bit but binds, left appear not to go in at all. Unwilling to crank on it and trash everything til someone with more knowledge has a chance to glance over it.
Sorry to sound like a muppet, spent my life fiddling with bmx that alway bolt together no probs and this seems tougher!

take the path of least resistance. life is too short.

i will take part on saturday even if i am riding my nephews mountain bike with stabilisers and my mums tweed overcoat.

i may well just do that.
all else fails i'll come on the carlton in 5speed mode and hang my head in shame. Would love to build a bike and learn to ride fixed in time if i can tho.

Ok. Raleigh bb = 26tpi
English standard = 24tpi
(thank you sheldon)

So spare bb will not fit in pennine frame, nor will the one in the carlton assuming its a 26tpi as well.

Easiest route is then to use frame with bb fitted(50's Dayton with bad 70's paint), but would be able to use bb from dayton in the pennine frame as both non-raleigh english?

sigh. if i had money this wouldn't be an issue. makes it more interesting i guess.

i may well just do that.
all else fails i'll come on the carlton in 5speed mode and hang my head in shame. Would love to build a bike and learn to ride fixed in time if i can tho.

I think it's more about the tweed than the gearing, TBH. Looking forward to seeing you there!

i know its all about the tweed.
the carlton is just such a garish 70's metallic lilac tho. doesn't go with my shooting socks at all ;)

i know its all about the tweed.
the carlton is just such a garish 70's metallic lilac tho. doesn't go with my shooting socks at all ;)

if your thinking that then you havent unscrewed the lid off the hip flask often enough.

It's all about sparkly purple for '09

I finally saw Nahguavkire's sparkley purple frame today. EPIC

Mine should get unveiled on Saturday (I hope).

is everyone rocking sparkly purple nowaday?
still aiming for pitted chrome ftw

Anybody got an Elswick or Rudge I can borrow? :)

as for me I'm gonna be rockin a 1977 carlton criterium with a ghetto suicide hub or maybe put my beater 700's in it, anyway you see a tweeded up git on a wac brown 70's frame holla back

only way to roll on a 70's carlton