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  • @hypercolour you will notice a difference after several months riding a big gear up hills all day, ie. you will fuck your knees. spin to win, for life

  • Just a thought; if anyone here is riding fixed / brakeless, have you noticed a detrimental affect on your knees causing problems for running?

    No, I do the holy trinity of things that are allegedly bad for knees:-

    • I ride fixed (including 600km+ hilly Audaxes with 8000m+ climbing)
    • I run (on pavements/roads)
    • I play 5-a-side football on astroturf

    Obviously the wrong pedal setup could affect your knees, a bad running gait could affect your knees, the wrong support type of shoe could affect your knees, etc.

  • I'm going to run to work for the first time ever tomorrow. It's about 5.7 miles, which will be the furthest I've ever run. Bit scared.

  • Yes and no. I've never had a problem caused from fixed/ss/big gears, but it will, and does, and did, exacerbate any problem that I pick up in other pursuits.

  • I stared wearing a HRM recently. Not really sure what I can take from it.
    I'm pretty much at 165-175bpm for most of a run (4:30-5min/km) and near my max (about 196bpm I think) during <=4min/km efforts.

  • Once you know your max you can train in relation to that.

    I reckon my run to work pace will be around 80-85% of my prev max.

    Might even do a proper max test again to update the numbers, or just see where it tops out at xc on 11th as there's a very steep bank near end of each lap = maxtastic.

  • Dull ache in middle of right foot/arch.

    Internet diagnosis gives Plantar Fasciitis. It's noticeable in the morning, and when running, but not painful/uncomfortable enough to make me even considering stopping.

    I plan on ignoring it, continuing to run (as long as it doesn't get worse) and working on stretching and core strength.

    Sound familiar to anyone?

    [EDIT - Trainers are suggested pair based on gait analysis, so I don't think it's the wrong type of support... ]

  • my support trainers fucked my feet up this time last year and i could barely walk for 2 weeks after a hard 10k. mostly because i have a very high arch and even though gait analysis showed i over pronate a bit the bigger issue is support shoes force me to run on the very outside edge of my foot as my high arch means there's very little contact area in the midfoot as it is and the support material ends up pushing my foot over even further.

    switched to neutral (even some fairly minimal) shoes and although still got a bit of a dodgy knee from tightness in my itb when i ramped up my mileage I never had any real PF type pain after. running in even mildly supportive shoes now is really uncomfortable

  • I accidentally ran 6.5 miles instead of 5.7 to work.

    I ran with a little rucksack (exped cloudburst 15, if it counts for anything) to carry shirt, socks, boxers, phone, wallet etc. Does anyone else run to work? What do you carry stuff with? I leave shoes and trousers here in my locker what with cycling in anyway. I suppose at bare minimum I've got to bring phone, keys and wallet in/home with me. How do I do this?

  • First run to my new job today, 9 miles of smiles, at 8 minute miles so not too bad, considering I'm still recovering from Wales, slightly nervous about the return journey, but there isn't any other option so it'll be what it'll be!

  • Internet diagnosis gives Plantar Fasciitis. It's noticeable in the morning, and when running, but not painful/uncomfortable enough to make me even considering stopping.

    I plan on ignoring it, continuing to run (as long as it doesn't get worse) and working on stretching and core strength.

    If it's PF, it's likely to get worse, and it's mortifying as a runner to get it, as it's mainly a fat person's condition. There are some decent mitigation exercises you can use:

    Calf raises on the edge of a step
    Rolling a golf ball under your foot while sat at your desk

    What eventually cured mine was wearing a strap that kept the foot at 90 degrees to the leg while sleeping - uncomfortable, but really effective.

  • I run to work sometimes. Using an OMM Adventure Light bag (used to use camelback cross 25).

    Chuck everything I need in except shower gel, tops, and trainers I keep at work already

  • I use one of these, reasonably comfortable I find http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00563MDHY/

  • If it's PF, it's likely to get worse, and it's mortifying as a runner to get it, as it's mainly a fat person's condition.

    Ha. Not a problem; I have a BMI of 30 at the moment anyway. Already do calf raises most days as part of stretching regime, will bring a golf ball in to the office and stick one on my desk at home. Ta.

    5x5 intervals on the gym bike before lunch today and the ache has gone away completely, so I suspect it's a mild case purely as I've upped my running from nothing (well, I have always done ~2 hours of 5-a-side football a week) to two 30 minute 5k runs a week.

  • The rare times I ran in to work (a long long time ago) I left as much as could at work the day(s) before (luckily I have lockers and showers at work): shoes, t-shirt, jeans, socks, boxers, towel, shower stuff, etc. I generally have a stash of all this stuff at work anyway, in case I forget to bring stuff in with me one day.

    That just left me to carry:

    • 'phone
    • keys (home and work)
    • wallet (no wallet, I just carried £50 in emergency cash, one debit card, Oyster card and my work ID card)

    These fit in an "arm wallet" (i.e. http://www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-arm-wallet-764971?colcode=76497146) and the 'phone used as mp3 player. Nothing else to carry. No need for water on a 10km run in to work.

  • Knee update: I felt a little pain on Saturday morning when walking but that disappeared pretty quickly. I didn't run over the weekend but have been on my feet doing DIY Sat, Sun and Mon. Back at work today so went for a run, pain started after about 2k and steadily got worse. Nearing the end of my run I stopped to cross a road and almost couldn't run to the other side when I started again.

    Foam rollered afterwards but I'm not sure that helped. When rolling the IT band I felt the pain worsen but it's right at the bottom of the band if that's what it is. I can't feel any inflammation but it does hurt if I press just below the kneecap to the outside.

    Hopefully more rest will help so will take a week off running and see how it goes.

  • Rest and stretch and strengthen for ITB. Rest alone will help pain go away but it'll soon be back.

  • Tbh, there's a lot going on in that part of your leg. I've had more or less what you've described twice- six years apart- both times had different causes. If it doesn't clear up in a week or two, see someone who knows what they're on about. How do you find going up and down stairs?
    Also, if it hurts during a run- stop. Sooner, rather than later. Mild pain can clear up in a couple of days, but that can go to a month or more in the course of a run.

  • I keep forgetting that I entered the marathon ballot.

  • hmmm that wasn't too bad negative splits!

    @5awyr have you heard anything?

  • Have not yet.

  • @HatBeard Similar story here, developed achilles pain in my right leg where the tendon joins the heel which kept me from running for a couple of months. Ive got high arches and a neutral gait and was wearing trainers with too much support, switched to nike frees and the pain literally stopped overnight.

  • Mission fix my running has started, proper sports physiology/ot session booked, 1 hour of someone looking at my running and coming up with a programme to make me run like mo booked for next week!

    Then all I need to do is improve my legs when swimming and get stronger on the bike and I'll be golden!

  • How do you find going up and down stairs?

    I never take the lift but yesterday I got the lift up 1 floor in my office because stairs were very painful. This was just after stretching post run. Going down stairs at the end f the day was quite bad too. Cycled 10 mins home and it felt loads better going up the stairs to my flat.

    I will go see the doctor if it doesn't clear up. I have Bupa cover so hopefully that should speed up referral to a physio etc.

  • I went to the Highgate Harriers training session at Parliament Hill last night. There are some serious whippets in the A group! I enjoyed watching them run.

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