Nothing is new!

...is written on my brief.
I always assumed that there was a certain part of university that was intended to encourage students to think 'outside the box' to create ect.

That statement is really off putting. what's the point in doing anything remotely creative if someone has already done it before you?
At what point was it decided that EVERYTHING had been done? am I missing something?

However that statement might be referring to:

1. That all new knowledge is built on top of previously known knowledge. i.e. in any form of Engineering you implement what knowledge already exists to fit the solution, which usually requires creative thinking.

2. New "original" work usually finds inspirations from several sources whether this is from nature itself or from another person.

Therefore it not necessarily saying that creativity doesn't exist, it just that people tend to reimplement existing ideas in a completely different context ...

... or I could be talking utter bollox.

no...it makes sense. I'm aware of the factors you point out. my issue is more to do with it being written in a Brief.
there's no need for him to be so honest! :D

The truly creative mind would see the statement 'Nothing is new' as a challenge, maybe that was the intention ?

no...it makes sense. I'm aware of the factors you point out. my issue is more to do with it being written in a Brief.
there's no need for him to be so honest! :D

Argh, sorry I managed to misunderstand your question.

Nothing is new...is written on my brief.

It's wrong.

Nothing is new
OR

Wen si gnihton

The truly creative mind would see the statement 'Nothing is new' as a challenge, maybe that was the intention ?

no. it was taken out of context.

reference other films. nothing is new!

This rash on my inner thigh is new.

This rash on my inner thigh is new.

do you mind if I quote you? I could really use this to back up my point.

I had one of these neon signs, but it broke, so I got another one - now nothing is new

I prefer to put it as,

Everything is new.

Because even things repeated are not the same, everything is developed & progressed and our experiences and interpretations will not be the same as the last person nor that of ourselves a moment earlier.

...is written on my brief.
I always assumed that there was a certain part of university that was intended to encourage students to think 'outside the box' to create ect.

That statement is really off putting. what's the point in doing anything remotely creative if someone has already done it before you?
At what point was it decided that EVERYTHING had been done? am I missing something?

Re-post.

plato wrote (in "the republic" if memory serves me correctly) of the socratic theory that we are born with all the information in the world already innately stored in our minds. The process of learning is a process of realisation of those things that we already know.

it's not true obviously.

plato wrote (in "the republic" if memory serves me correctly) of the socratic theory that we are born with all the information in the world already innately stored in our minds. The process of learning is a process of realisation of those things that we already know.

it's not true obviously.

Well put, for all the authority that antiquity brings (for the credulous) Plato was an idiot.

Well put, for all the authority that antiquity brings (for the credulous) Plato was an idiot.

How dare you!

Plato wasn't an idiot. A lot of the interpretations of Plato's texts are idiotic though. Nothing of what Plato says should be taken at face value. His style is more nuanced than that.

The Socratic method is bringing these ideas out of people without instilling them (intellectual midwifery). If you treat what he is describing as intellectual potentiality, rather than a mythical quality of the mind, it's more palatable I suspect.

nothing is new, the world has no time for innovation. its about packaging these days. the age of the graphic designer is upon us. form over substance. context over content.

How dare you!

Plato wasn't an idiot. A lot of the interpretations of Plato's texts are idiotic though. Nothing of what Plato says should be taken at face value. His style is more nuanced than that.

The Socratic method is bringing these ideas out of people without instilling them (intellectual midwifery). If you treat what he is describing as intellectual potentiality, rather than a mythical quality of the mind, it's more palatable I suspect.

No, really, the man was an idiot.

I am a big fan of the 'interpretations' argument (for anything) ;P "I know it looks like horseshit, but it's just that people lack my insight into what these things mean".

I know where this one goes too, and in the interests of brevity (and to stop it going 'mosque') will admit that everything you say from here on is correct.

CC new and innovation are very different things…

everything is new - that photograph you're looking at is fading right before your eyes, you can never view anything exactly the same way more than once

You're no fun, Tynan.

(And for the record, my support of Plato is not to say I think he's "right").

You're no fun, Tynan.

You should see my balls.

(And for the record, my support of Plato is not to say I think he's "right").

Good, because he was wrong about lots of things, most things.

And he was a foreigner.

CC new and innovation are very different things…

everything is new - that photograph you're looking at is fading right before your eyes, you can never view anything exactly the same way more than once

i'm not looking at a photograph, i'm wondering why i am awake again after 2 hours of sleep.

CC new and innovation are very different things…

everything is new - that photograph you're looking at is fading right before your eyes, you can never view anything exactly the same way more than once

Yeah baby.

These kinds of statements 'nothing is new' - seem to be little more than equivocation - before anyone bothers to think about what the statement might mean, they are off either conforming it or refuting it.

It's semantic trickery, or at best obfuscation/sophistry, at worst it is ID cards by the back door.

No, I don't know what I am on about either.

i'm not looking at a photograph, i'm wondering why i am awake again after 2 hours of sleep.

AIDs