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  • Got my Sugino 75 crank on a Miche bb at the mo and need to replace as its making some weird noises.The miche is 107 moved over on the crank side about 2mm giving 43mm chainline. I can't get 42 with this combo as my condor chainstay gets in the way. I was going to buy an FSA 68 x 110.5 ISO to give me between the 42 and 43 i need. Anyone have any experince of this bb and crank combo?

  • check the transmission database thread

  • 111mm campy FTW

  • sugino 75 / 111mm campy = 43...yeah

  • Looking on the transmission thread it appears that people are using a campy centaur 111mm with the sugino 75 cranks to match a 45mm spaced goldtech hub. Not sure if i'm being dumb but sugino 75's take a 109 to make 42, so using the campy 111 would only give 43 at the front not 45?

  • I've recently started using the Centaur with the 75 because the Mickey really is mince.

    It's giving a 43.5mm chainline.

    A lot depends on your sprocket. My EAI has sits at least a mm further out than my CONdor CNC (which I was using with the Mickey 107).

    And bear in mind that most hub manufacturers chainline spec is nominal at best...

  • Ben's Cycles [Milwaukee] in the USA do a Whites Industry sealed BB specifically for a Sugino 75 and comes in at 108mm and ISO. Only Ben's cycles sell them....$108 + postage

  • i'm running durace on a grand compe - 42mm with my calipers. Didn't want to go more than 1mm diff at the front. Think I'll try the Centaur, see how it goes.

  • Ben's Cycles [Milwaukee] in the USA do a Whites Industry sealed BB specifically for a Sugino 75 and comes in at 108mm and ISO. Only Ben's cycles sell them....$108 + postage

    Cheers, I didn't know that - and now I do. :)

    Another ISO BB for Sugino 75: Hatta R9400

  • i'm running durace on a grand compe - 42mm with my calipers. Didn't want to go more than 1mm diff at the front. Think I'll try the Centaur, see how it goes.

    Have a butcher's here: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_ca-m.html

    The 1/8 DA cog offers a slightly wider chainline than the EAI. You should be fine.

  • Ben's Cycles [Milwaukee] in the USA do a Whites Industry sealed BB specifically for a Sugino 75 and comes in at 108mm and ISO. Only Ben's cycles sell them....$108 + postage

    Anyone used one of these?

    otherwise i have just found these http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9460&zenid=ad552ebae194f2364149ec89dc577d6f

    looks interesting, just a shame postage is the same cost as the bottom bracket itself!

  • Looking on the transmission thread it appears that people are using a campy centaur 111mm with the sugino 75 cranks to match a 45mm spaced goldtech hub. Not sure if i'm being dumb but sugino 75's take a 109 to make 42, so using the campy 111 would only give 43 at the front not 45?

    I thought I'd resurrect this thread rather than start again...

    Can anyone clarify the above point? I make a Goldtech chainline to be 45 or maybe even 46 mm, with a bit of variation between sprockets. I make a Phil to be 43 to 44 mm. The database seems to show that some are using the Sugino 75 / Campag 111 mm combination with both Phils and Godtecs. They cannot both give a correct chainline. Any recent direct experience?

    Aonther reason for my puzzlement is that the White Industries or Phil BB recommended for Sugino 75s seem to be 108 mm rather than 111.

  • I'm sure I read that the additional 2mm on the campag is on the non drive side so it will still give the chain line you need. The little spacer you can use behind your cog are really handy:http://velosolo.co.uk/bbspcano.html

  • I was under the impression that the 111mm Centaur is symmetrical. Certainly says so on the leaflet in the box.

  • Ooops go with the package..sorry...

  • No need to apologise, there seems to be conflicting information on it, including from Campag's own site.

  • I thought I'd resurrect this thread rather than start again...

    Can anyone clarify the above point? I make a Goldtech chainline to be 45 or maybe even 46 mm, with a bit of variation between sprockets. .

    are you talking about old goldtec hubs? new ones have 42.5mm chainline.

  • The most confusing......^^^^
    Conflicting info from Betd also!
    My goldtecs have 45mm chainline, i have Da7600 crank with 111 campy bb.
    112 would probably be perfect though!

  • The most confusing......^^^^
    Conflicting info from Betd also!
    My goldtecs have 45mm chainline, i have Da7600 crank with 111 campy bb.
    112 would probably be perfect though!

    Prior to getting my Goldtec, I emailed the company to clarify this, as it is pretty clear that most users make it 45 - 46 mm. Goldtec confirmed the 42.5 mm figure.

    Obtained hub, measured it: 46.5 mm. (This refers to recent hubs, mine was obtained 6 months ago or so).

    I wonder if they are measuring to the shoulder rather than to the middle of the teeth on the sprocket?

    Anyway, I am now going down the Phil hub route, to be paired with either Sugino 75 or Campag Pista chainset (undecided). This is for a Bob Jackson Vigorelli.

  • bump

    to clarify, is this the campy centaur recommended for Sugino 75's?

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/campagnolo-centaur-comp-triple-tapered-bottom-bracket/

  • Got my Sugino 75 crank on a Miche bb at the mo and need to replace as its making some weird noises.The miche is 107 moved over on the crank side about 2mm giving 43mm chainline. I can't get 42 with this combo as my condor chainstay gets in the way. I was going to buy an FSA 68 x 110.5 ISO to give me between the 42 and 43 i need. Anyone have any experince of this bb and crank combo?

    i have destroyed two miche bottombrackets the past year on my sugino75's

    hate

  • bump

    to clarify, is this the campy centaur recommended for Sugino 75's?

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/campagnolo-centaur-comp-triple-tapered-bottom-bracket/

    Works for me, do you need one? I have a spare 111mm ISO Campag Chorus if you need it...

  • Is that sealed dude?

  • Sealed tighter than a nun's nasty...

  • how much you wanting posted?

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