Q. for roadie types

I have a pair of Cinelli criterium bars that I want to fit to a road bike (Pinarello Montello) that hopefully is going to be covering some distance - now they look the business because they are all lovely sexy and curvy but is there any down side fitting criteriums over normal square bars

Nope, none at all. It's nice to have some different hand positions and criterium bars still give you that.

it would be nice if someone made a modern criterium style bar..

deep drop, curving off quickly, but not as quick or deep as an out and out track bar.

I've got some criteriums and they are really comfy on long rides soaking up the buzz noice but as I discovered on track day prob a bit too flexy for track for a fat twat like me.

what about the fact they are narrow 41 cm that Ok on a racer ? not doing any touring just taking a lightbag and a credit card

depends how wide you are, innit.

I've got 42cm and they feel quite wide but I'm only 5-8/5-9.

I tried to find a consensus on how to fit a set of bars but it seems shoulder joint to shoulder joint is one of the body measurements that varies least between individuals. Your stem height could compensate for the slight diff in hand position on the hoods and put shoulders at the same height to a 42cm.

Narrower bars seemed recommended for track to get you through narrow gaps and get your elbows flaring out so no-one can past you in sprints. I got some 36cm B123 on the way to see if that sorts my speed wobble probs.

I am 6ft tall and barrell chested like a sargent major I guess I'll suck'em and see

thanks for the advice dead chuffed I can use them on the road

no idea what a criterium is mind..;)

I have Cinelli 65's on all of my bikes, and have used them exclusively for about 20 years.

65's swoop forward from the centre almost immediately.

Some people prefer the 64 or 66 models as there is more of top section offering more positions.

All are getting increasing hard to find cheaply. Widths go up to 44 c-c

mine are stamped 65-40 just like yours dmc I have never ridden drops I just like the way they looked kinda old fashioned

thanks for the advice dead chuffed I can use them on the road

no idea what a criterium is mind..;)

A criterium is a road race.

Most popular in the US, they are run on closed streets and consist of numerous laps around a 1 mile circuit.

30-50 miles usually. Fast laps and lots of sprints for primes.

These short races are one of the reasons Europeans had no respect US riders back in the day, before Lemond.

A two hour race once a week didn't properly prepare you for the demands of a stage race.

does thazt mean they are not the right bars for a European bike like a Pinarello? or did europeans ride with criterium bars also?

You need kermesse bars ;)

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Europeans also used them although 64's or 66's might be better suited for mountain stages.

Personal preference.

They will look great and would be appropriate on your Pinarello

I ain't going anywhere near any mountains

Looking great and appropiate tickles me pink

They do look blindin on the Pinarello

If one of them frenchies asks

I got it straight eh hippy

Kermesse is general name for a bicycle race held on a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_circuit of a village fête.

Now just win the Cinelli clamp size lottery and you'll be set. 26.4mm was a surprise for me :)

the non-anatomical classic bend bars are coming back. i suspect the major brands will come with more of them. at the moment they only have the classic bend in expensive models.

Clamp is 26.4 early 1990 stem

modern bars and hoods look really clumpy and ugly

great photo that dmc who is it?

You heathen! It's Sean Kelly, on his way to winning the 1986 Milan-San Remo.

With Greg Lemond suffering to stay with Kelly.

You heathen! It's Sean Kelly, on his way to winning the 1986 Milan-San Remo.

careful now, you know what happened on that other thread.

It never occured to me that you could go OUTSIDE the city on a bike
its you lot that have slowing got me into road bikes
this will be my very first road bike ever
I like the way sean kelly is covered in mud
where has he been then?

It's not mud; his sponsor Kas produced some of the first fake tan lotions in Europe. They soon went out of business.

modern bars and hoods look really clumpy and ugly

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non-anatomic traditional bars rock.
i have a pair of very nice triple-butted dedas in shallow 'Italian' drop.
nicest bars i have ever fondled.