Arrghh! this dudes a legend!

We need to save him!

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080730/video/vuk-hacker-loses-us-extradition-appeal-49bfa63.html

How is he a legend? He did nothing technically interesting, and he's going to jail for it. Probably for a very long time.

He well looks like a shapeshifting lizard.

leg-end

ok, just a geek then.

But, you got to give up some respect for "showing it to the man" and hacking into their govt computers. He never did any harm either, when he couldve done a lot.

Its like running up to George W. , close enough to kill him, but mooning him instead and getting put away for 70years. OTT no?

2001-2, thats like 6 years ago. shit i can't remember yesterday, let alone back then.

If someone broke into your house and didn't steal anything, but left a note to let you know that he'd been there, would he have caused no harm?

depends if he stuck the toothbrush up his ass.

Special relationship? bullshit.
The Ironic thing is that the US never co-operate with UK legal requests.
The biggest issue in the McKinnon case is not the extradition treaty however but the fact that the US have been caught with their pants down and are looking for revenge rather than proportional justice*
He wont get a fair trial over there.

*taken from my other half's rantings, of which I agree with.

If someone broke into your house and didn't steal anything, but left a note to let you know that he'd been there, would he have caused no harm?

if he wouldn't destroy the door, locks, and left the door shut so that noone else could just go in, of course i would shake his hand

Its like running up to George W. , close enough to kill him, but mooning him instead and getting put away for 70years. OTT no?

sounds like Kevin Mitnick all over again..

Much more interesting computer hacking.

Had a massive crush on Ally Sheedy back then. Actually, I think I still have!

That guy sure is going to miss all of his late nights playing online World of Warcraft.

Much more interesting computer hacking.

Had a massive crush on Ally Sheedy back then. Actually, I think I still have!

Was that his name!

hes my guild leader :/

Special relationship? bullshit.
The Ironic thing is that the US never co-operate with UK legal requests.

what pissed me off is that Gordon Brown is kissing America's arse more than Tony Blair, argh.

"we're going to send more troops to agfanstian and iraq for America" what fucking troops?? we already have 100,000 (almost all) of our troops in Iraq and Agf! America have 750,000, let them use their own fucking troops.

frankly i'm with the 'hacker' thats a ridiculous sentence for reading something that he 'shouldnt' have been able to.

conceptually I find it strange that someone can face prison for messing around on a computer. He didn't use violence or threaten anyone. More importantly he did not sell sensitive information.
If the system did what it should have done he could not and should not have done what he did.
Surely it is the software security of the Pentagon that should be held in contempt.
The spinelessness of our authority does not come as a surprise. If I could, I'd love send him to the safe house of Cuba, and give him a commodore 64 to see how much damage he could do for laughs.

NB I'd fucking kick his arse at Street Fighter 2

Special relationship? bullshit.
The Ironic thing is that the US never co-operate with UK legal requests.
The biggest issue in the McKinnon case is not the extradition treaty however but the fact that the US have been caught with their pants down and are looking for revenge rather than proportional justice*

A+

He's being made an example of, isn't that obvious?

As for the special relationship - erm, yeah. It's like an abusive relationship, it's only special for the victim.

Well, if someone broke into my house I would be livid, whether or not they stole anything. This guy did nothing special. The media is hung up on the fact that these machines he gained access to were Pentagon computers - in reality, they were nothing that sensitive, and the security was obviously minimal.

indeed sparky so what you're saying is, if you left your garden shed unlocked and someone came in poked about and touched up your lawnmower but didnt turn it on, you'd throw them in jail for 70 years because you hadn't padlocked it.

No, I'm not saying that - it's a bad analogy. These computers were not "unlocked", but were poorly secured, mostly because they contained nothing particularly sensitive.

However, he still broke in, and broke the law. He deserves to be punished, but also deserves no respect for the technical merit of his crimes.

whilst i agree it's completely OTT, you wouldn't catch me hacking into the US military. it has sketchy written all over it. i feel sorry for the bloke, he must be gutted. i'd probably top myself.

Thats what you get for using Windows. I mean the American government use windows? They are asking for fucking trouble. No wonder they are so paranoid. If I used windows I would expect this as a rule

the hacker is essentially making the government more secret and more secure and more underground than it already is, since the hacker is showing weaknesses that they can prevent in the future.

im with the hacker though. overall he did a good thing.