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Pitlocks plus a decent d lock.
Admit that if you ride an expensive bike and leave it around anywhere in any city by itself it has a chance it will get stolen. Who cares, its just a bike!
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If you get yourself a decent lock, thick cable, hardened chain or other wise, you should be fine - as long as you don't leave it out of sight for too long. common sense is more valuable than any chain. A decent bike thief will get through any lock, 5 star rated or otherwise in less than 5-10 minutes anyway. If it feels dodgy don't leave it. I would use a hardened steel chain and hardened steel doughnut shaped padlock for maximum hang time before the fuckers get through your defences (which are, incidentally rated according to the manufacturers specifications), and his crack pipe smokin mate turns up in his white van, carts off your little two wheeled baby and ships it on brick lane or ebay to some wannabe hipster for fiddy dorra.
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A friend of mine says she met a bike thief in the pub and he told her all his secrets. I'm sceptical, but apparently he emphasized that if bike thieves see an Abus lock, they don't bother even trying. I'd go with mobidog's advice - get a big fuckoff Abus chain (you can wear them round your waist, so they're easier to carry around than d-locks), and maybe a couple of d-locks as well (you can hang them from the chain round your waist, and it also means cars keep their distance so they don't get scratched).
And there's always the gaffer tape route...
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[quote=Emilia;237829] - get a big fuckoff Abus chain (you can wear them round your waist, so they're easier to carry around than d-locks), and maybe a couple of d-locks as well (you can hang them from the chain round your waist,]
meanwhile your pants have come down due to the weight of all that hanging off them and your ass is a-glistenin' for all the world to see - not the best of looks as you round the bollards at the Golden Hart of a Sunday afternoon.
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Pitlocks plus a decent d lock.
Admit that if you ride an expensive bike and leave it around anywhere in any city by itself it has a chance it will get stolen. Who cares, its just a bike!
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When you consider the value of most of our bikes, the thought of leaving them locked anywhere becomes steadily more ludicrous. I would never leave my Campag equipped geared bike anywhere, the same as I wouldn't lock my full sus downhill bike in a dodgy place - so it doesn't make sense that I use my Mercian fixed to get about town - especially considering it's not worth that much less. I may be working in central London soon, and would think about building up a beater frame for that commute, but then why did I buy the Mercian if I'm going to be too precious to ride it?
Whatever - like Rakan said, it's just a bike and it's a risk you take. I use a Kryptonite Fahgeddaboutit, but won't leave it anywhere I can't check up on it - but all that means is I don't ride to the cinema.
Christ - what a fucking ramble. Hopefully you get the idea though...
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[quote=Emilia;237829] - get a big fuckoff Abus chain (you can wear them round your waist, so they're easier to carry around than d-locks), and maybe a couple of d-locks as well (you can hang them from the chain round your waist,]
meanwhile your pants have come down due to the weight of all that hanging off them and your ass is a-glistenin' for all the world to see - not the best of looks as you round the bollards at the Golden Hart of a Sunday afternoon.
I kind of like the Marley's Ghost look...
Perhaps it's better on girls - they tend to have rounder hips and arse, which keep the chain in place and the trousers up!
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Recently went through this process myself. My conclusions were to buy two locks, 1 D-lock and 1 chain type lock. Rationale: any lock can be broken given the will; d-locks and chains require different kit to break; it's likely that a thief will only carry one set of kit; having two different locks increases the difficulty somewhat.
The best rated locks I found were:
D-locks: Kryptonite New York or Fughedaboudit (the small yellow one), ABUS Granit X-Plus 54
Chains: ABUS Steel-o-Flex, any of the ABUS/Kryptonite chunky chains.I just use my D-lock in the day, there are plenty of bikes round where I am with crap locks that would be far easier to nick.
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Condor Pista is a great bike - sounds like you got a bargain too.
Applying common sense is probably the most important factor in not getting your bike nicked. Postcode is less important than actually where you lock it - visible, busy areas are likely to deter thieves cf. quieter back streets. But don't leave it out and visible for extended periods of time (e.g. overnight). And locking your bike correctly - look at the Epic Fail thread to see how not to do it...
However, parking it out of the sight of thieves is probably the best way to avoid getting it nicked. By that I mean park it off the street at work and home (if possible).
Enjoy - and come along to some of the social stuff once you're down in London.
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Hi,
this is probably a well worn question but I'm going round in circles...
I've just bought a Condor Pista with insurance money, which I got half price on eBay almost brand new. So I've doubled the cost of the road bike I used to own, which got stolen from a cable lock (i've learnt that lesson). I'm living in Liverpool, but moving to London soon and have been advised that the Kryptonite mini d lock is just not serious.
I've been advised to get a big gold rated d lock, as well as one of those steel flex ones. I was thinking about getting a chain but are they any better for the weight? Is one lock better than two? How much should I spend? Is it ridiculous to think a brand new pista would be left unnoticed in London for any amount of time? It also has a £85 brooks saddle on it. Please help...