Hit the deck; ASL blocking drivers

My latest technique for shaming drivers into not pulling into the ASL at junctions is to veer sharply in front of those who do, then pull away really really slowly.

Today it didn't work so well; my veering was all off, my weight was all wrong, and down I went. Only injury was a grazed knee and some wounded pride.

Anyway, I thought that the driver might at least ask if was ok...? He had 2 little kids in the car (who looked pretty shaken by seeing me take a tumble), so I suppose he wouldn't have wanted to engage a likely angry cyclist. I wonder if he went on to explain to his kids that cycling in London was clearly very dangerous and that they should never do it...

Moreover, maybe the whole scheme of stopping in front of these drivers and pulling away at a snail's pace is misguided. Perhaps the driver will just get more infuriated at cyclists in general and behave even shittier towards them. All I know is that it's damn satisfying to do...

yeah, i sometimes just trackstand in front of them for a while just to prove my point.
ASLs are there for a reason! i got knocked off my bike by a driver a few weeks ago solely because he was stopped right in the middle of the ASL and didn't see me pull up beside him.
it's so petty! are london drivers really that desperate to get a couple of feet further forward on the road?

Twice in one day I saw police vehicles plonked in ASLs. One of the traffic lights was where I had seen a cyclist pulled over a couple of days before for going through a red light when no one was around.

If the police don't respect the law and apply it in an arbitrary fashion, we live in worrying times.

What does ASL stand for?

What does ASL stand for?

'Advanced Stop Line' - the green box for cyclists at the front of some/most(?) junctions

I favour the wait 2 seconds after light turns green method also. Although not always, just if they look like idiots. PPL who brake sharply to stop before the light (when its turning red) and end up creeping into it as a result are ok by me. Its the ppl who cruise up to it and then into it like its a private parking space for them.

oh grow up, you babies.

oh lpg you made me spit my breakfast all my computer

What you have to do is clap them and congratulate them. Say well done, you have got to the front of the que, and you even have your own special box. Do it all very loud so everyone notices.

oh grow up, you babies.

Never! Petty one-upmanship forever! ;)

I'm pretty sure that a driver can be cross the SL into the bike box (up to the ASL) if they entered it before the lights turned red, i.e stationary traffic at a junction. So, it's quite possible they're in the right unless you saw them cross the SL after the lights turned red.

From the Highway Code...
178
Advanced stop lines. Some signal-controlled junctions have advanced stop lines to allow cycles to be positioned ahead of other traffic. Motorists, including motorcyclists, MUST stop at the first white line reached if the lights are amber or red and should avoid blocking the way or encroaching on the marked area at other times, e.g. if the junction ahead is blocked. If your vehicle has proceeded over the first white line at the time that the signal goes red, you MUST stop at the second white line, even if your vehicle is in the marked area. Allow cyclists time and space to move off when the green signal shows.

Just use the AASL that's in front of the ASL. Everyone's a winner.

just cycle on the pavement - much easier

ok, this works for cars (I do it routinely, also for people that cut me up), but what do you do with mopeds using the ASL? Dlock to the head?

Try not to piss off drivers, they'll only take it out on the next cyclist. Don't forget that they see a lot of bad behaviour from cyclists and if you add to it then more bad points for us.

Just go ahead of them in the middle of the lane, look at them politely and make them understand that you have priority and that they have to wait. Next time they'll be more careful.

And don't park in the middle of the ped crossings, that's really annoying.

Otherwise I also quite like this option. Maybe get a massive gold star to stick on their windscreen that says 1st place in the queue

What you have to do is clap them and congratulate them. Say well done, you have got to the front of the que, and you even have your own special box. Do it all very loud so everyone notices.

And don't park in the middle of the ped crossings, that's really annoying.

I do that anyway when the car not only parked on the ASL, but just about near the crossing, not only I gave them the shameful look but the peds did that as well to the driver, and when a ped was about to give me that look, I quickly point to the ASL and they fully understood.

This morning feeling full energy after a good night at the south drinks and also a bit rebellious after being told "that the forum needed a mum" and I that I fitted the job ;) that I decide to tell a scooter that the ASL is for cyclists not scooters. And she retorted "EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME! WHOSE COUNTRY IS THIS!!!" and she left at the lights.
I doubt she will be sharing this story with her colleagues this morning unless she works at the BNP...

she sounds like a classy lady.

goddamn frenchies, over here stealing our ASLs.

i pee on any thing in the road i dont like

the hits on the scooter gear london forum just went through the roof apparently there was a scuffage at some lights linky:

www.scootergearlond.co.uk/veeangry

dark times

I can't access the website from work Shinscar, but I like the ...."veeangry"!!??!!

goddamn frenchies, over here stealing our ASLs.

I'm still entitled to half the ASL, my Dad was English.

I can't access the website from work Shinscar, but I like the ...."veeangry"!!??!!

damn.

hmmm i cant access it from home either... some one should tell the admin to go and make the site