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agree with aidain.
with a bob jackson chainline should be fairly straightforward. look at the database on here for guidance of BB/Chainset/Cog...
it's really not that difficult, it's a case of trial and error, always. and if you're not sure, check and double check, and don't overtighten things till you're totally sure.
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also, look at 'today's new bicycle' thread, and 'road bike conversion' for evidence that complete mongoloids like myself can do this.
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to bring the thread back on course, just have a crack. i know nothing about bikes and i seem to manage. my flatmate matt (small brown bike on here) is starting up a open tool workshop on sunday mornings if you want/need some hands on practical advice, plus we have all the tools you'd need....
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So the plan was to buy a Bob Jackson frame and have it built up by my local bike shop with parts purchased from them. As the weeks have gone on I’ve started to accumulate parts from elsewhere (it gets addictive this malarkey) and if I carry on the way I’m going there’s not going to be much left to get from the shop and the guy who said he’d build it will quite rightly tell me to piss of when I turn up with a box of bits.
After reading countless posts I’m starting to think that I should be building this myself. If you’ve read any of my previous questions (and I thank you for your replies) I’m new to all this and usually just ride the things and when they go wrong take them to the shop for fixing: I’m not stupid or lazy, it’s just that I like to know that it’s being looked after, most probably far better than I can ever do myself.
My question this time is….. once I’ve got all my bits together would I be stupid to attempt to build this myself seeing that the most I have done with my commuter is re-grease the rear bearings when they started to sound gritty? I know I’ll have to buy some tools, read some guides and take my time but my concern is more that I’ll screw up some of the good bits that’s going on to this bike and either make a proper bollock of it or kill myself at the first junction when it all collapses.
its really just screwing stuff together, and turning it the right way, and hard enough with out turning to hard. Zinn and the art of road bike matinance is a really good book, every home shop should have a copy.
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Having done a bit of transmission research here and on Bikeforums I got BJ to factory fit the only bits I wasn't happy to DIY i.e. bottom bracket and threaded headset. They charge nothing to do it for you apart from cost of parts.
It is not surprising that they should charge you nothing, putting that BB in involves little more than a bit of grease in the right places and screwing in two 'cups', once you know what you are doing you could install a BB in 5 minutes - and I am sure some could do it in less.
its really just screwing stuff together, and turning it the right way, and hard enough with out turning too hard.
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Basically - what Chris said.
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I had the fear and have had all my bikes built by shops.
Half of the time I regret it afterwards.
Half of the time I've had to strip the bike and start again myself.
For the Mather I'll probably build it myself unless he wants to put it on show first.
There's not much to it, just do things in the right order, don't rush, grease every metal to metal contact, don't over-tighten things, or under-tighten. And that's it. It's really not hard at all.
The big fear is the over-tightening, under-tightening. But if that's a real fear for you, then borrow a torque wrench off of someone. But it's not as big a deal as you initially imagine it will be.
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The big fear is the over-tightening, under-tightening. But if that's a real fear for you, then borrow a torque wrench off of someone.
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Since I bought my 2 torque wrenches a few years back -a 0-25 Nm and a 20-110 Nm - I always torque to exactly the recommended setting (or if the part comes with no instructions I Google around for a recommendation) - and it is fair to say that the days of rattling, squeaking, chainring bolts loosening, stuff breaking or simply dropping off are long gone (fingers crossed).
You certainly don't need a torque wrench, but they can make building bikes easier.
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So the plan was to buy a Bob Jackson frame and have it built up by my local bike shop with parts purchased from them. As the weeks have gone on I’ve started to accumulate parts from elsewhere (it gets addictive this malarkey) and if I carry on the way I’m going there’s not going to be much left to get from the shop and the guy who said he’d build it will quite rightly tell me to piss of when I turn up with a box of bits.
After reading countless posts I’m starting to think that I should be building this myself. If you’ve read any of my previous questions (and I thank you for your replies) I’m new to all this and usually just ride the things and when they go wrong take them to the shop for fixing: I’m not stupid or lazy, it’s just that I like to know that it’s being looked after, most probably far better than I can ever do myself.
My question this time is….. once I’ve got all my bits together would I be stupid to attempt to build this myself seeing that the most I have done with my commuter is re-grease the rear bearings when they started to sound gritty? I know I’ll have to buy some tools, read some guides and take my time but my concern is more that I’ll screw up some of the good bits that’s going on to this bike and either make a proper bollock of it or kill myself at the first junction when it all collapses.