Tugs on a conversion

Hello...

am nearing completion on my first build, just trying to get the chain nice and tight -

Can you get tugs that are suitable for road conversion, forward facing horizontal dropouts? it would just make keeping my wheel in place nice and easy...

Surly tug thing works.

is that the bottle opening one? looks nice if quite expensive.... any ideas on a stupid tight budget (ok, go without i suppose... but anyway)

andyfallsoff Hello...

am nearing completion on my first build, just trying to get the chain nice and tight -

Can you get tugs that are suitable for road conversion, forward facing horizontal dropouts? it would just make keeping my wheel in place nice and easy...

is that the bottle opening one? looks nice if quite expensive.... any ideas on a stupid tight budget (ok, go without i suppose... but anyway)

(chains can be too tight)

Ok cheers...

the cheapest option of them all it is. easy...

Anyone here run their conversion or track bike without chain tugs ?

Will cranking down the track nuts real tight hold the wheel enough or is it simply worth getting tugs so you don't have to over torque your track nuts (and screw up the threads) ?

it depends on the nut, if it is burred it will bite and stay put better, unlike phil/goldtec etc they have smooth caps, although the inside is burred.
i use a mks and it does a pretty good job of holding it in place

31trum it depends on the nut, if it is burred it will bite and stay put better, unlike phil/goldtec etc they have smooth caps, although the inside is burred.
i use a mks and it does a pretty good job of holding it in place

Do you run chain tugs on your bike ?

"i use a mks and it does a pretty good job of holding it in place"
erm...........yes sir i do.

31trum i use a mks and it does a pretty good job of holding it in place
yes sir

I didn't realise the MKS was a tug, I thought you were referring to a set of MKS track nuts.

Got it now ! Cheers :)

no worries buddy

mks
edit these won't work on a conversion though.

Old Cyclo chaintugs found at bike jumbles for a couple of quid a pair or a fekkin fortune on E-Bay

tynan Anyone here run their conversion or track bike without chain tugs ?
Will cranking down the track nuts real tight hold the wheel enough or is it simply worth getting tugs so you don't have to over torque your track nuts (and screw up the threads) ?

I still haven't bothered with tugs on the Soma. It has front and rear brakes, Phils with allen bolts and tends to be ridden more gently than my other bikes. Just for reference.

I made my own chain tug for my conversion, but I think I saw one of very similar design for sale from on one.

here you go...

http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=13&MMN_position=35:35

Should work as it is the same design as mine cheap too at 5 of your golden nuggets.

i have to give a nod to surly axels, the threading on mine has lasted where as the track nuts have gone all mushed together and need replacing... but i guess that could be rephrased as:

i have to give the finger to surly track nuts...

i keep having to tighten my chain tension once a week or so, but maybe these squished nuts are letting me down, it used to hold pretty good on the campy road drop-outs.

Im not an expert, but I generally think that chaintugs are not usually necessary. Though they can be convenient for, eg not needing to fiddle with the wheel too much when sorting out a flat.

I have never used them, and Im rockin stock pista nuts always done up with a li'l old dumbell spanner, and I dont crank down that hard, and nothing ever moves.

I would say, ride it, if your wheel slips around a lot, buy some tugs. If not, then don't and be happy.

Cheers for all your nut based input, appreciated.

tynan Anyone here run their conversion or track bike without chain tugs ?

Will cranking down the track nuts real tight hold the wheel enough or is it simply worth getting tugs so you don't have to over torque your track nuts (and screw up the threads) ?

Never used chain tugs on my conversion fixed wheel. Never had a problem.

I've never used them. Goldtecs on painted road dropouts.

if riding brakeless with goldtecs, you need to have tug!

dogsballs if riding brakeless with goldtecs, you need to have tug!

+1 yup!

out of interest, why? Is this specific to goldtechs?

actually, what causes tugs to be necessary at all? presumably to avoid the axle moving forward, but what kind of factors cause that?

Genuinely curious because its never been a problem for me, but some people consider them invaluable. Im just wondering what makes the difference.

There's a limit to how tight you can get axle nuts. Also, over time they will creep not matter how tight you get them.
Put strong rider on bike and it's nice for them to know that if/when the axle does move forward, it will move only a minimal distance as it has been stopped by the tug.
So, it's less likely to throw the chain or lock the wheel to the chainstay (both potentially crashing you into hospital) when running a chain tug.

hippy So, it's less likely to throw the chain or lock the wheel to the chainstay (both potentially crashing you into hospital) when running a chain tug.

Because the chain tension is kept at the right level ?