Deep V Velocity wheels and general

Hi,

I am building a new bike from scratch and am looking fo a bike shop in central london that can supply me with a good range of Track wheels (in particular the Deep V Velocity) also Hubs, chains and differnt handle bars ... etc?

Any infomation would be great.
Cheers,

Did you try the search function at the top of the page?
Brick Lane Bikes do velocity yeah?

yea thanks, but bricklane dont seem to have any .... did you bring your 'truck load' over from Oz?

For Deep Vs its either Brick Lane, 53-12.com or ordering them yourself from the states.

Condor, Brixton or Brick Lane cycles have the best stock for parts in Central London. You may also want to look at http://www.hubjub.co.uk or speak to Roberto on this forum (king of 2nd hand quality track stuff).

for Deep V's could also try Cavendish Cycles
Cavendish Cycles
136-138 New Cavendish St, W1 (020 7631 5060)

Last time I was there a couple of months back had just got some in, and had a couple of IRO frames in circulation as well

if brick lane bikes doesn't have it, then 53-12 is a good bet. give them a call and ask what they have in stock. they'll send stuff the next day usually.

cornelius blackfoot for Deep V's could also try Cavendish Cycles
Cavendish Cycles
136-138 New Cavendish St, W1 (020 7631 5060)

Last time I was there a couple of months back had just got some in, and had a couple of IRO frames in circulation as well

i was passing by last week and they had a whole display of them in the window. don't know what price they are asking though.

sheps712 yea thanks, but bricklane dont seem to have any .... did you bring your 'truck load' over from Oz?

Haven't been back. Won't be this year either unless someone finds me a grand and a month off work..

Are you really that desperate for deep Vs? They weigh quite a fair bit and if you're just riding on the street the aero benefits are negligible.

eeehhhh Are you really that desperate for deep Vs? They weigh quite a fair bit and if you're just riding on the street the aero benefits are negligible.

off the back of that, geezer at my LBS (brixton cycles) had issues with deep V's, said they never came through "true" and that i should invest in a pair of dt swiss RR 1.2

http://www.dtswiss.com/index.asp?fuseaction=rims.bikedetail&id=16

obviously not available in the wide range of colours but about £40, and without stickers would look fairly swish imho

I've been looking at the 1.2's they only come in 28 and 32 hole though.
I saw a bike with them on the other day and it looked pretty nice.

I'm thinking of getting a setting having them and some hubs painted.

I'm picking up my new wheels from Brick Lane bikes tonight. They've just had a delivery of 300 pairs (it might have been 200 pairs...doesn't matter it was a lot anyway)...£37 for machined sidewalls...less for unmachined.

I've never had a problem with a Deep V. Always built solid, true wheels that don't need much aftercare based on the four or five wheels I've built with them (not all for me obviously).

Those DT swiss rims are nice, but they're even heavier than Deep Vs which is a little off putting - (580g (DT) vs 520g (Deep V) vs 430g (CXP-33)). I'm a pretty big fan off the Mavic CXP-33 as alternative to Deep-Vs, they're a little lighter and build into decent track/street wheels.

Putney cycles will get you deep v rims if you want. 53-12 are the UK distributor of sorts so are a good bet for having them in stock.

Scrapper I've been looking at the 1.2's they only come in 28 and 32 hole though.
I saw a bike with them on the other day and it looked pretty nice.

I'm thinking of getting a setting having them and some hubs painted.

So I assume you want 36 hole then? 36 spokes AND deep section aero rims is totally overkill. The higher the number of spokes the more spokes the load applied to the rim is distributed out to, meaning that each spoke has a smaller load, therefore less likely to break. Which means a stronger wheel.

A deep rim section increases the distribution of the load on a wheel, too. So there is no point in having both aero wheels and 36 spokes. Go for 32+non-aero or 28+aero.

That's quite a brief summary, by the way. Read "The Bicycle Wheel" by Jobst Brandt for a superb explanation! It's quite old but it still applies today.

But this is a fixie forum and you forget the most important factor..

What they LOOK like! :)

Whats the consensus on removing the decals on em? Do people think they look better or not?

Better without the decals.

I have a pair of wheels built with Deep V's, I found them to feel heavy, though bombproof. They do look pretty stickerless, but if I did that pair of wheels again I would've gone for the Mavic CXP 33's I have now or some Open Pro's.

I want to take the stickers off my CXP33s. I've not looked - do they just peel off?

eeehhhh [quote]Scrapper I've been looking at the 1.2's they only come in 28 and 32 hole though.
I saw a bike with them on the other day and it looked pretty nice.

I'm thinking of getting a setting having them and some hubs painted.

So I assume you want 36 hole then? 36 spokes AND deep section aero rims is totally overkill. The higher the number of spokes the more spokes the load applied to the rim is distributed out to, meaning that each spoke has a smaller load, therefore less likely to break. Which means a stronger wheel.

A deep rim section increases the distribution of the load on a wheel, too. So there is no point in having both aero wheels and 36 spokes. Go for 32+non-aero or 28+aero.

That's quite a brief summary, by the way. Read "The Bicycle Wheel" by Jobst Brandt for a superb explanation! It's quite old but it still applies today.[/quote]
comment was due the fact I have access to cheap 36hole hubs.
I'm great at leaving information out.

hippy I want to take the stickers off my CXP33s. I've not looked - do they just peel off?

yeah, they do chunky

I see.

Well, with 36 hole hubs, if you want good wheels, I'd go for a box section rim like Open Pros. You'll have a strong light wheel. If you go for deep v you'll just be hauling extra metal everywhere you ride. They'll be strong but not light.

off topic a little but what are the pros n cons of cxp33's and open pro's?

pip
Those DT swiss rims are nice, but they're even heavier than Deep Vs which is a little off putting - (580g (DT) vs 520g (Deep V) vs 430g (CXP-33)). I'm a pretty big fan off the Mavic CXP-33 as alternative to Deep-Vs, they're a little lighter and build into decent track/street wheels.

See now I'm getting all squirrely, when people say a wheel is heavy, how heavy is heavy, got some campag scirocco rims on my soma which are 770g front and 955g rear, and they feel light to me, (coming from a very old mountain bike) so the DT's would be half of what I've already got, going to get them built to 32 hole red phils. The Mavic's I haven't even thought about, though I know lots of boys on here swear by them. Decisions, decisions...

I was looking into the same question a little while ago.

Basically, a deeper section wheel is stronger. More spokes = stronger. But both deep section and more spokes is overkill.

CXP33s
Pro: Deep section therefore more aero (but I doubt it'd make a big enough difference) and stronger
Con: Heavier than Open Pro

Open Pro
Pro: Very light. People say they're stiff.
Con: Not aero so not as strong as CXP33.

When I get paid on Tuesday I'm just going to buy whatever looks nicest!