Bloody Chain whips

Any one got any good recommendations for chain whips? Just broke my Wheels Manufacturing one that has lasted a good few years - broke as in the handle bent and then cracked when I tried to bend it back.

Would like to try and get something a little beefier. Any suggestions?

http://www.hubjub.co.uk/etc/etc.htm for the DA whip+lockring tool. Works well though not heavily used by me so can't comment on durability.

I have one of those DA whips. The lock ring tool is great but gets in the way if you need to use a bar for extra leverage. If it was on the other way up it would be fine. The 1/8 chain part (with the spring) i have found too short for any sprocket over 16t as you cannot fold the chain back on its self to stop it from slipping when trying to loosen the sprocket. Add some more chain to this and it works fine. With the extra leverage you need a large tube with an ID of more than an inch or a very large ring spanner to get over that sloping down lockring end.

Andy - cheers for the review. I've never been a big fan of the DA tool but adding extra chain might make it more useful.

I think though I'm going to splash the cash and get a Park SR-2 mainly cause I've been changing lots of cogs and am sick to the back teeth of struggling to get 'em off. Only downside is that you have to install you're own 1/8" chain on this thing.

Really the moral of this story is don't use normal grease for cogs. You need anti-sieze/copper slip grease and if you're out, go get some rather than installing the cog thinking you'll get some later. You won't and your cog will fuse itself.

I would also try reverse rotafix by I love my frame to much.

Rotafix, and put a magazine around your bottom bracket so that you don't scratch the paint.

Now I've tried it, I'm just going to do this every time. So damn easy.

Yeah smeear showed me how to rotafix and i was amazed at how simple and easy it was. None of that struggling with a tool crap.

Ok, I tried the reverse rotafix and had to give up cause the chain was really putting a lot of pressure on my chainstays. May have been doing it wrong, but it didn't seem like there was anyway to get the chain to wrap the cog, without some of the chain being taught against the top of my stays. Still didn't shift the cog, but took off a fair whack of paint.

I just couldn't get it to work so in the end, did the classic technique of:

Remove lockrings
Ride around the 'hood skidding the bejesus out of the bike
Then attacking the cogs with a Park CR-2 using the wheel against wall method.
<--- repeat until success.

Eventually it succumbed and I still have all my teeth. I do though feel very very tough.

David K Rotafix, and put a magazine around your bottom bracket so that you don't scratch the paint.

Now I've tried it, I'm just going to do this every time. So damn easy.

Magazine tip was great, used it on friday after my dura-ace whip could not move my cog.
used the reverse rota with magazine and it came off so smoothly.
Ive done it without before and always cringed.

Yeah rotafix rules
not magazine though, i use my beloved oily rag

oh oily rag how we love you

I haven't got an oily rag :( In fact I haven't even got a rag. I think I might have to pop down a cheap shop like Wilkinson's and buy a tea towel or something.

Use old t-shirts. Should work just as well.

They leave loads of oil on you when you put them back on though.

It's a look that attracts the ladies.

tea towels shed fluff, you don't want that in your drivetrain. use a t-shirt as suggested ^^ and yes, the ladies love the grease.

Tell her that when you've just got it over her silk sheets..

the kinda ladies oil covered t-shits attract anit likely to have silk sheets

You might be surprised..

I converted an old 3/32 chainwhip to 1/8 with a bit of old chain and that works fine

What's a rotafix?

It's a method of screwing on a cog, or removing one, without a chainwhip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotafix