Plum Vainqueur track bike (team WBV) from Vlaams Wielercentrum Eddy Merckx

In fairness i think that jag was fucking old. My 120 ITM eclypse is pretty stiff for a quill

Maybe, it's also the aluminium one.

So that's actually 120mm in standard stem measurement I think. (nitto measure theres different to everyone else)

Isn't it the other way? Nitto measure the stem length instead of the horizontal distance.

120mm measuring the actual stem and 110mm if you measure it flat across i think (maybe the otherway round?)

110 measuring stem and 100 reach, no?