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right then going for an all-american wheelset bar the spokes, american classic's laced to archetypes 1x 24h front and 2x 28h rear with dt competitions that i have left over, means that it'll be sub £300 and should come in at about 1.4kg, hopefully that's enough money to mean that i've got a light and strong wheelset when the "strong, light, cheap, pick two" mantra is applied