Just a thought Danny, how about putting a couple of your new to bikes over to the forum so some of the more moderate voices could try them out and review them?
Nothing to lose and you might convert a few people from the views they have regarding quality
Just a thought Danny, how about putting a couple of your new to bikes over to the forum so some of the more moderate voices could try them out and review them?
Nothing to lose and you might convert a few people from the views they have regarding quality