Microcosm Feature Suggestions

Your friend wasn't popular, were they?

Could you refresh which threads have been viewed on the unload event?

I'm not sure what you mean or what the scenario is.

We store knowledge of where you have read up to in the database, and that is used when we show the page.

Or... do you mean you hit the back button and that still reflects the old state?

Think I may have just misunderstood the WebKit page cache / unload event actually.

Yes, hitting the back button and updating that page's state.

More info here: https://www.webkit.org/blog/516/webkit-page-cache-ii-the-unload-event/

I'm not sure where I stand on that... it's a neat improvement in the user experience, but it breaks the internet standard.

Going back in history should show you the page as it was at that moment in history.

That's basically what the internet standard says... it takes you back to the the page/state that you were at previously.

I'll have a think about it and look at what others do. It's not hard to modify the state, but I don't want to be modifying the way things work for people's expectations, and most expectations are based on how the web has already worked for them for years. The back button has a pretty clear job.

For example... even on LFGSS hitting back after making that post doesn't show that post. As the browser stores the state and my post didn't exist one click back in the browser history.

Very true.

I guess to me, that's the distinction between an application and a more traditional published web page. History in an application isn't necessarily tied to the state, it's often just the view or frame: e.g. iPhone mail, an email's state is updated when returning to the list view.

I guess it's also similar to a browser's :visited CSS.

(Just thinking out loud here.)

while testing yesterday

i had an idea, probably something to maybe implement when the rest is all done but it would be nice if the private message (huddle) system could be used in a popup window ontop of whatever your currently using, so replying to PM's, sending some a pm etc doesnt require a seperate page

how is it going?

Well.

We're on to "What's stopping us launching this for the existing sites we host?"

And the answer seems to be "Edit screens + adapting their existing themes". Which frankly isn't much and should be done in a very short amount of time.

I like the word huddle, I think it makes sense and people can relate to what it is.

If that scenario arises I'll speak to Andy about it. We share lawyers and friends already, probably investors in the future. He's a sane and cool guy, and unless we go into the business space I can't see how this would even begin to be a point of contention.

Was wondering if Microcosm would have any functionality for file storage.
However clearly that would put you into a similar market to Andy and his investors might be a little less understanding.

Also the 'enterprise' space is not a well defined one.
Every Organisation is motivated by the self interest of its members.
Would you define brixton cycles an enterprise or not?
What about its cycle club?

But why might you not want to go into the enterprise space?

I don't like the word huddle.
Makes me think of american football..
Or 'cuddles'

You don't like cuddles?

Cuddles for me are a bitter / sweet memory of a broken heart.
Want to hear the story?

This functionality is not offering cuddles tho.
I've been trying to think of a better alternative.
How about 'Yammer'?

Get together and Yammer on and on..
I think its perfect I can't see any problems with using it.

Let's call it a MySpace

How will reporting posts work in Microcosm?

I wonder if it could almost be like private notes tagged to each post, so there could be a dialogue with mods, and also more prosaically so that you don't end up sending multiple notifications because you forgot something?

(or will we all just be called wetlips and told to >>>>>>>>>>> ?)

How will reporting posts work in Microcosm?

I wonder if it could almost be like private notes tagged to each post, so there could be a dialogue with mods, and also more prosaically so that you don't end up sending multiple notifications because you forgot something?

(or will we all just be called wetlips and told to >>>>>>>>>>> ?)

At the moment, email one of us and we'll talk to the site admins.

But how it will be done, is that every comment and bit of content will be reportable.

Reports will instantly notify an admin/moderator.

Failure of the admin/moderator to do anything will result in some types of report being handled automatically (spam removed).

Some types of report, if compounded by many similar reports, will be handled automatically.

What this means is that material will be withdrawn from the sites and put into a moderation queue... and unless later approved will not re-appear on the site.

For some type of report, the content will remain visible for a while. For some other types (and if compounded by multiple reports), the content will be instantly removed.

We aren't providing a discussion tool around it, but one could always just message the person who made a report. Bear in mind that isn't always possible, it's realistic that a copyright report will be made by someone who isn't even a member of the site.

I don't seem to be able to invite people to join my site?
I hate spam but humans fucking deserve it for being so easily manipulated by its power into some kind of action.

Without an invite feature I simply don't think I can drive enough members into my site to make it sustainable.

Can't you, umm, email them?

What site do you have tommy? And can't you just email them?

It is possible to register someone if you know their email address (via the API) and you are the forum admin, but we don't go spamming them. Which makes this only useful if you want to do something in advance of a user arriving on the site, i.e. pre-assign permissions.

Why is "invite" so critical for your forum? You're the first to request it, and getting the early users in a forum is surprisingly hard work. I'd be keen to hear what your scenario is that makes an invite system important, if we've missed something we'll add it to the backlog.

~~I just tried to sign up but after selecting my gmail account and clicking through it came up with an "Internal Server Error" screen and now won't load anything else.

I can browse meta.microcosm.app but can't load the microcosm.app homepage~~

All working fine now

Yeah, thanks, all sorted now.

I'll join Tommy. I'll start the football thread.

Currently I don't have a forum.
I'm trying to establish my initial user adoption and engagement.

Achieving critical mass where a forum is self sustaining is something even behavioural science doesn't understand but nudge theory is a proven tool

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_theory

Why Email?
1.) Its still the first thing most people look at of a day, so joining my forum will go to the top of their to-do list

2.) People still feel an email from an address is in someway official, rather than some random site

3.) It allows you to invite people *on mass important for generating engagement.

In short any tool that helps possible user adoption should be given to the admins arsenal

What would happen if I register them by email myself?

What site do you have tommy? And can't you just email them?

It is possible to register someone if you know their email address (via the API) and you are the forum admin, but we don't go spamming them. Which makes this only useful if you want to do something in advance of a user arriving on the site, i.e. pre-assign permissions.

Why is "invite" so critical for your forum? You're the first to request it, and getting the early users in a forum is surprisingly hard work. I'd be keen to hear what your scenario is that makes an invite system important, if we've missed something we'll add it to the backlog.

Oh, Tommy, do you mean that any users can invite more users, not just the admin? Like a button that writes an email pro forma to a given address?