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  • Sorry, missed the crucial word 'front' out of that. Force, Rival, and Apex are all listed as 88 or 89g, Red as 58g.

    If you are looking at 10 speed the front mech is the same, only difference is finish and branding. The rear mechs are also very similar .. Differences (excluding wifi) are Apex has an aluminium outer cage and steel inner cage, Rival has aluminium outer and inner cage, Force has a carbon outer cage, aluminium inner cage and magnesium alloy inner body link.

    The Red front and rear mech's of the same design have additional machining to the aluminium body pieces .. With the use of carbon for the rear mech cage, inner body link and ceramic pulley bearings .. and titanium for the front mech cage.

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