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  • Aero lids are banned too.

    They'd better be enforcing reflectors, unless they want to lay themselves open to accusations of hypocrisy and permitting riders to breach Construction & Use Regulations.

  • Aero lids are banned too.

    Whut

  • Head fairings banned, CE marked pointy safety helmets OK

    At this time of year, the Bell Javelin has the virtue of keeping your ears warm, regardless of any aero benefit

  • Aero lids are banned too.
    They'd better be enforcing reflectors, unless they want to lay themselves open to accusations of hypocrisy and permitting riders to breach Construction & Use Regulations.

    What? Really? I'm talking about proper aero helmets, not those sculpted bits of plastic/carbon (fairings) that aren't considered safety equipment.

  • Apologies for the confusion: what Tester said.

    CE lids will be compulsory, which effectively outlaws most aero headgear.

  • Most aero helmets are CE marked these days

  • They are? Well as my idea of aero is turning my cap backwards, it's not surprising I'm out of touch.

    Either way, I rather put the money towards wheels/frame/EPO etc.

  • Bell Javelin is not horribly expensive and gets loads of good reviews for both usability and effectiveness. On the other hand, I'd entirely support your position if you just refused to favour promoters who insist on helmets with your custom.

    Mandatory helmet proposals are put forward regularly to National Council, usually by the same troublemakers from one or two districts, and equally routinely rejected by the rest of the country. The idiots then persuade their district to pass a District Regulation implementing something which has just been rejected nationally.

  • Few of the head fairings are quicker than the newer TT helmets anyway. I've done analysis on quite a few and only found one (Giro Rev IV) that's quicker than the fastest safety option (for me, a Giro Selector with the wedge), but my visor kept coming off the Rev IV and eventually the straps always break off so it's no real problem. Only a couple of watts anyway.

    As for getting faster - yes intervals. And have a chat with people in case you have a horrific position as well, huge gains to be had there regardless of fitness

    Xav

  • Xav, have you got your velodrome testing thing running yet?

  • That's it - if you'd like to be added to the booking list my e-mail is xavier@aero-coach.com, we will have testing slots early next year but not right now in December when the weather is unpredictable and unhelpful!

    Xav

  • Where do you do the testing? Surely it's indoors?

  • No, outdoors. I've done analysis at pretty much all the outdoor velodromes in the UK, but the base location for testing is Wolverhampton. We can do indoor testing but price/availability and allowance for geared bikes indoor makes it far easier to use outdoor tracks. The data is equally as good with the equipment and analysis that we can do

    Xav

  • Cheers. Does it require a particularly still day or do you do it early morning to minimise the effect of wind or can you eliminate wind by measuring it and cancelling it out?

  • We can run a session even in wind, the kit we use takes that into account. Raining and extreme cold/ice is out though as over the course of a session you would get too cold/uncomfortable and your body position would be likely to shift about inadvertently. Plus you can't really wear a big puffer jacket whilst you're riding as that kills the data too!

    Previously I've gone to a section of road at Birmingham airport at 1-3am to do testing (as they have excellent weather data available from the airport and the air is still) but the rabbit population was a bit deadly, they just went for my front wheel all the time

    Xav

  • Yeah, I've tried quiet industrial estates on weekends near me but it's always too damn windy. I'm not getting up at 4am to do it either.
    Anyway, I've emailed you. I could do with some 'free' speed.

  • Palmer Park is a bugger when it's windy, but there are plenty of mornings or evenings when it's calm enough without having to measure the CdA of your 24h lighting rig while you're at it :-) Opens at 7am, and you can pay a few quid to jump on the track if nobody else has booked it. I know people do AeroLab stuff there. Presumably the AeroStick works quite well on oval tracks to get real time numbers for all wind angles

  • I'll see what Xav says about it - Reading is good for me. I've had the arse with trying to do it myself so am quite happy to throw money at the 'problem'.

  • What are you targeting for next year Hippy?

  • World peace

  • Whoops, slipped...

    World-sized piece of apple pie

  • Ultan mentioned a best of 4 - there's two 24hrs in 2014.
    I'm also very fucking tired of getting close to the club 12hr record and not overhauling it.
    But I won't really know what I'm targeting until later. I'm not very committal until later in the year when it's entry form crunch time.

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