Shit wheels or shit wheel builder?

I've got these.....

http://www.kinesisbikes.co.uk/products/wheels/crosslight-cxdisc

On a Genesis Croix De Fer bike I bought off cyclechat, and had nowt but bother with the rear...clicking, spokes snapping over and over.

So I had it rebuilt at my lbs with DT Swiss spokes and nipples...it's been back to lbs, the 1st time they had to replace the alloy nipples with brass ones (they said alloy ones were faulty). It's been back at least 3 times to be re-trued - and every time the non drive side spokes have become so loose that they rattled in the wind....this is usually in less than 10 miles.

At the moment the spokes are at least still tensioned now but the wheel is egged and out of true, luckily it's a disc wheel.

Are my problems down to a shit wheel or shit wheel building? Anyone else had this sort of thing...lbs say they've never had these things happen before and tbh I tend to believe them.

Sounds like you need spoke prep to stop the threads un winding. Are you using anything like pledge to keep it clean or spraying wd40 on the cassette that could spread up the spokes.

My mate had an uncle john from planet x that kept doing that. He sent the whole lot back as it was junk.
My mate has the same bike as you and he just nails it weekly so it sounds like you have a dodgy rear wheel.

Hope pro 3 for me.

Are you a "gifted descender"? I am.

I had machine built Charge disc wheels with huge 14mm alloy nipples and plain guage spokes that snapped on the rear all the time. Rebuilt with DB spokes and brass nips and no snappage but kept losing tension NDS.

Chucked some threadlock on the nips and they finally behaved. By contrast have many road wheels I've built that have never had a problem with so might be something about disc brake wheels and the forces that are diff to rim brakes

Do you know, I was thinking it might have something to do with it being disc and being a heavy bugger at 17 1/2 stones. Just down to it always being the non drive side.

I have Royce hubs with DT spokes and open pro rims and discs. I am 14 stone and carry up to 8 kg of luggage. Nearly 4000 miles in a year from new and the only wheel issue was my mate buckling the rear one in France when he hit me in a peloton pile up on a bridge. Discs meant I could finish the morning and then straighten the wheel on a cafe table at lunch. Otherwise never even a loose spoke.

When the load being carried approaches the max kg of tension a spoke/rim combination can handle wheels get a bit odd if you aren't defaulting to 36H

I've been heavy since giving up the weight lifting and never had any issues before.

unrelated but on a similar tip

I have a set of wheels which are galli vuelta rims laced to exage hubs. can't find much info on the net about the rims, are they half decent?

Update: shit wheelbuilder, I rang them and asked if the rim was buckled they said yes but they trued it out.

So I tried it using the plucking spokes method and have come to a compromise between trueness and spoke tension.

Fucking idiots, if they'd rang me I'd have said put a new rim on.