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@Wrongcog
My dad and I just dropped a car off at a pub with a view to giving some folks a lift home later (we're walking there). We took my mum and dad's shitheap Apollos with us and rode them home. One of the funniest half hours I've had on a bike followed my dad saying "shall we cut across this field"? I did ok I guess - wished I had my Tricross ss with me. But watching my old man clatter into swamps of mud while two very conservative walkers with those fibre glass poles and fleece hats pretended we weren't ruining their Boxing Day stroll was good value! Only bummer was I was wearing converse.