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@climbingsidrat
fair point. I think i have all the tools i need but is there any components you would recommend prioritising price wise over others. I was planning just a cheap saddle off ebay thats comfortable but the rest i want to be decent sturdy bits that will take a hammering. So far my prerequisites are drop bars and while i debated a flip flop hub for later use i have to be realistic and fit brakes for the intended use.