Facebook I hate cyclists group infiltrated!

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Aren't you the hobbit?

Your table at the reej earlier

http://www.geektown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/7-dwarves-the-hobbit.jpg

Ha!

Great day out! good work you two... next stop Bright Times Night! end of the summer party...
too many highlights, but i am still loving the enthusiasm on Ems face as he was trying to find a D lock small enough to lock Rays neck to the tree... with friends like that man ;)

Stuck some photos up here

I'm fine with the drivers as long as they're men and not vegetarians.
I'd nerg you twice if I could.

After readin this I want to buy someone a Foffa

Ha!

Originally Posted by Greasy Slag
*Great day out! good work you two... next stop Bright Times Night! end of the summer party...
too many highlights, but i am still loving the enthusiasm on Ems face as he was trying to find a D lock small enough to lock Rays neck to the tree... with friends like that man ;)

Stuck some photos up here

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One of my first forum piss ups. Great day. First time meeting Pip and Stringer, wich I have regreted ever since.

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Your table at the reej earlier

http://www.geektown.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/7-dwarves-the-hobbit.jpg

I would pay money to see this band play live...

If there is one thing we have learned from this thread, it's that we shouldn't think in terms of motorists vs cyclists - anyone can be a poor internet user

what if one is both a motorist and a bicycles user?

am I an uncle tom?

^ i reckon that accounts for the vast majority of ppl on here.

I reckon the uncle tom's are generally the most sensible.

"hating" anyone based upon such an arbitrary thing as their preferred mode of transport is just about the stupidest fucking thing a person can do. next to queieng up for an apple product that is. fucking apple slaves. those people suck.

what if one is both a motorist and a bicycles user?

am I an uncle tom?

All of us are road users. thats the bit that gets forgotten in the BS slinging.

If there is one thing we have learned from this thread, it's that we shouldn't think in terms of motorists vs cyclists - anyone can be a poor internet user

If there's one thing I've learned from this thread, it's that Jeez really has to go on ignore...

I'm fine with the drivers as long as they're men and not vegetarians.

I'd nerg you twice if I could.

Sorry, forgot to add "white". White men only.

"hating" anyone based upon such an arbitrary thing as their preferred mode of transport is just about the stupidest fucking thing a person can do. next to queieng up for an apple product that is. fucking apple slaves. those people suck.

You forgot "cat people". Those are the most militantiest.

what if one is both a motorist and a bicycles user?

am I an uncle tom?

What if one is neither?

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I do think there is a difference between those who have already committed some act, such as a deception, fraud, scam, etc... and those who merely communicate that they are thinking about it.

Let's be realistic, what Lynchman did wasn't actually a crime and boils down to "making shit up on a forum". Conversely, this guy has been threatening violence - fine if it's all pub talk, but it could indicate illegally poor driving, which is a crime.

I don't think either case should have identifying information bandied around because that sort of vigilantism should need a clear indication that some great harm will occur if the person isn't tracked down, but if one of them should it's surely this man who is a potential danger, rather than Lynchman who did an emotional wrong but was no operating danger to anyone?

(Late to the party as usual. Pray continue talking about hobbitses)

What if someone emotionally invested in lynchman took their own life after he apparently took his? Harm could have been done, he also put a lot of effort over a lot of time into his deception and all that was ever done was a threat of revealing details if a simple apology wasn't forthcoming. The other guy started a shitty facebook group for a few people with some twattish thoughts on, a few people got together and discussed going straight above the guys head in a hope he'd lose his job. I'm sure we'd all prefer that people that hate cyclists ain't drivers but hating cyclists and targeting them are different things. I'd prefer that racists don't teach but if they keep certain views to themselves and teach to the curriculum without personal prejudices entering into things there really is no problem.

"What if", "could have been done". It's the same extrapolation from otherwise anonymous internet comments as to say "what if" the angry HGV driver really did go and hit a cyclist who "could" die.

I'm just pointing out that these two cases are very much similar and if revealing details (or threatening to reveal them) is OK in one, then it's OK in the other, and vice versa.

The police probably wouldn't take kindly if the HGV man was contacted with a veiled threat to his job and livelihood - tbh Lynchman was punished more (or more punishment was made ready) because he did a cardinal sin against the forum and its users.

Anyway, what happened to Bossman's edict that "everyone has a right to an opinion of whatever form"? Clearly that doesn't include disliking cyclists. Or, on here, racism, sexism, and fictional deathism.

In general I agree with Velocio's point, differentiating between thoughts and actions, however I don't believe this is so clear cut in the case of people in cars who genuinely dislike people on bikes.

In my work I train many professional drivers, getting them on bikes in order to help them understand how to share the road with people on bikes. The vast majority of these drivers have no issue with cyclists and some who do express strong anti-cyclist thoughts initially, change their view after 3 hours of riding, and in many cases apologise for their early comments.

There are however a few drivers who remain fixed in their view. On a couple of occasions, when asked 'When is it appropriate to punish a cyclist by passing close or swerving into them' do give instances when they feel that a cyclists deserves such treatment (such as when the cyclists is hogging the road etc ). It is quite depressing when that happens.

(Why some people hate people who choose to ride a bicycle in this country is explored in depth by sociologist Dave Horton who has written extensively on the marginalisation of cyclists and of fear of cyclists. Worth reading)

Horton is bang on about the marginalisation of cyclists. Only in the UK would this insane and unsafe prejudice go largely unchallenged. In any offer European country there would be legislation in place to quash it. Maybe because theyve had 100 years of very visible sport that's what has informed their ideas about two wheel tolerance.
Who knows, but this level of intimidation is frankly intolerable.

Meh.

Stupidity is infuriating.

Facebook seems to breed stupidity.

Horton is bang on about the marginalisation of cyclists. Only in the UK would this insane and unsafe prejudice go largely unchallenged...

What is lacking here is decent enforcement of risky driving.

Also the focus on the victims rather than the perps (Which seems the case in may other areas of our society- this morning on the Today program the police were defending their inability to deal with the teenage girls who were groomed in Rochdale because of the 'chaotic girls' rather than dealing with the rapist men)

And policy around road safety being based on myth and lack of understanding by politicians who don't cycle leading to a focus on helmets and ear-phones rather than on the behaviour of the people who cause the harm

this was received in reply to a question regarding how road policing policy is prioritised.

target culture in action.