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  • I suppose if someone was waiting in the gutter at a red with no ASL, and a lorry pulled up next to them indicating left, the only way out would be to jump the red.

    or you could get off and push your bike over the road, thereby not breaking the law and not looking like an RLJing twat.

    If you are turning left naturally you park towards the left at the line so as not to risk a collision with a bike undertaking you when the lights change as you move off around the bend.

    Whilst waiting however, if a lorry pulls up beside you or even behind you close enough to put you near his forward blind spot - a consideration should be made to get out of there. Risking a £30 fine is less of a problem than risking your own life.

    Obviously going out into live traffic who have the right of way is also dangerous.

    Basically we need the US law that allows left turns on red lights.

    I do get off and push occasionally if it get's too hectic. But sometimes pushing an unwieldily bike across lanes of traffic and around railings is actually more dangerous than rolling to safety further down the road.

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