I think it's important to keep in mind that the cohort of the forum is probably not wholly representative of the cycling (or would-be cycling) public - likely fitter, faster, not very young nor very old - so it could be that the calls for segregation by 'community leaders' do actually represent cycling opinion better than you / we on here think.
It's obviously important that segregation is combined with clear separate signals for bikes at what you correctly call 'the conflict points' .
But it's fine if you aren't keen on segregation. I can't see how it wouldn't improve the experience of cycling up, say, Edgeware road, or along Euston road, but I am interested to hear what the best-thought-out alternatives are.
Are we talking about HGV-bans? I am in favour, and it's not an either-or: in Paris they have both. Or better road surfaces, better junction design, more actually-enforced ASLs? All of these sound good, but none of them stop aggressive fast close passes which, while not the most dangerous aspect of cycling in London, in certainly the most unpleasant (ok maybe the rain is most unpleasant).
Is there somewhere I can go to read a coherent argument against 'go dutch' / copenhagenize plans?
I think it's important to keep in mind that the cohort of the forum is probably not wholly representative of the cycling (or would-be cycling) public - likely fitter, faster, not very young nor very old - so it could be that the calls for segregation by 'community leaders' do actually represent cycling opinion better than you / we on here think.
It's obviously important that segregation is combined with clear separate signals for bikes at what you correctly call 'the conflict points' .
But it's fine if you aren't keen on segregation. I can't see how it wouldn't improve the experience of cycling up, say, Edgeware road, or along Euston road, but I am interested to hear what the best-thought-out alternatives are.
Are we talking about HGV-bans? I am in favour, and it's not an either-or: in Paris they have both. Or better road surfaces, better junction design, more actually-enforced ASLs? All of these sound good, but none of them stop aggressive fast close passes which, while not the most dangerous aspect of cycling in London, in certainly the most unpleasant (ok maybe the rain is most unpleasant).
Is there somewhere I can go to read a coherent argument against 'go dutch' / copenhagenize plans?