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  • Not the segregation we get over here, but the segregation they get over there (points to most of europe)
    You need to design to the standards of europe, not the bollocks we get in the UK
    In suburban areas, brilliant. But in urban environments in Holland and Copenhagen they still have the right hook conflict everywhere. Unless you're talking about over and underpasses at every junction, you cannot physically segregate at junctions. Only on the approaches to them. The difference is cyclists have legal priority to pass on the inside and vehicles must give way, combined with strict liability and a culture to boot. Also cyclists are banned from using the road when they have an adjacent facility. Are you aware of that? Would you be happy for that here too? Cyclists have the ear of the press and now is the time to sieze the moment and lobby the DfT for these changes, not Boris. Even if you still want the infrastucture, bare in mind it's been built up over decades over there. But segregation without the law change IMO in many urban situations is more dangerous.

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