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i think i d like to keep as much from the straight as possible. this will provide me one more hand position. i already made this mistake at the orlowski. i did cut the la84 way too short and sometimes while riding i miss to grab that bit.
i think i start with 2 cm and than see how it rides, i also like the dorky look of the upright, this bike wont win no beauty trophy, so i stick to the most wierd look as possible.