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@Garethhon
Thank you for that Mr Trees. I will measure up and take some photos next week. The bike is at my boat in Harlow and I am away for a few days. Rode it to work comment was just meant to show it was in sound order but I appreciate relatively irrelevant. It is a nice well specced classic ride though- I really wanted one when they were bew and I was at school but ended up with a Zenith in 501 and devoid of campag, hence the reason for buying this one.