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  • Well they are thicker. Don't know if they are defiantly stronger.

    And too fragile too, 8/9 speed is better for touring than 10/11 speed.

    I think 8 speed is a bit too regressive now. But 9 speed shimano is a good point. You'll be able to use all the 9 speed deore stuff too.

    Also if you want a whole new group from a shop now then 105 or Apex seems to be the way to go.

    How hardcore is the tour going to be?

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