Ortlibe all the way i use a massive, ruck sack for day to day ( Ortlieb Waterproof Messenger Bag - White / Black: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools ) and on my tourer i have front and rear panniers ( Ortlieb Waterproof Back-Roller Classic - QL1 Cycle Panniers Pair - Logo White / Black: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools ) ( Ortlieb QL1 Front-Roller Classic Low-Rider or Rear Bicycle Bag White white-black Size:30x25x14: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors )
I had my rear panniers so over loaded i sheered the bolts on the frame and the bags are still going strong, very hard waring bags
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Ortlibe all the way i use a massive, ruck sack for day to day ( Ortlieb Waterproof Messenger Bag - White / Black: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools )
and on my tourer i have front and rear panniers
( Ortlieb Waterproof Back-Roller Classic - QL1 Cycle Panniers Pair - Logo White / Black: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools )
( Ortlieb QL1 Front-Roller Classic Low-Rider or Rear Bicycle Bag White white-black Size:30x25x14: Amazon.co.uk: Sports & Outdoors )
I had my rear panniers so over loaded i sheered the bolts on the frame and the bags are still going strong, very hard waring bags