Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

PTJ good? When would you wear V Softshell.

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Softshell is good for the extreme winter and for general riding (especially when you're just taking it easy), whether the PTJ from the sound of it are great for club ride, training and/or long commute

Previously had the Swrve Milwaukee, got fitter and rode further, end up being overcooked in it after 10 minutes, changed that for a Rapha Softshell which was a bit cold for the first 10 minutes before warming up.

Now slightly roasted with the Softshell on a longer commute, hence the move to the PTJ.