• I'd rather not give up anything either, but I happily would if it was the only way forward. The best solution is to have decent segregated infrastructure and the right to ride on the road. I just wonder how much anti-segregationism is driven by fear of what we might lose. I'm not telling anyone who currently cycles that they are doing it wrong (in fact, I'm not even sure what that means - they're probably doing it very right in the crappy circumstances that we have). I do think it is wrong for them to oppose infrastructure that will encourage current non-cyclists to cycle (and it will) on unrealistic idealogical grounds or because they fear it might change what is currently a tolerable situation only for them.

    Yup

    If there really was an infrastructure fairy who could, at the flick of her magic wand, grant us Dutch standard infrastructure but cost us the right to ride on all roads, and if I was sure that would work well for the majority here in London, then i'd be in favour of that change.

    I'd mourn the end of riding on roads like the A4 and Marleybone Road, which are so much fun when you're in the right mood. But i do believe in the greater good, and i do want parents to let their kids ride to school.

    But...
    I'm not totally convinced that segregated cycle routes are the best possible answer for London. Part of the answer? Sure, but not all of or the most urgent or most important part.

    And what i *really *don't like are people whom, convinced that segregated cycle paths are the whole of the answer, seize on this certainty as an opportunity to indulge in picking on and bullying cyclists who don't agree with them. Both because this is odious behaviour and because it's a stupid plan that won't do anything positive even if they are right.

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