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Probably fair, but my point was that it does come over that way. I'd rather see motorised traffic calmed to the point where anyone feels comfortable riding in it. But that's unrealistic no matter how much training you receive (and I'm definitely pro training). As far as I can tell, all the evidence suggests that to get mass cycling (which is the actual goal) you need to build decent segregated infrastructure. But this is rejected by many on the idealogical grounds that we shouldn't be second-class road users and that we shouldn't cede our right to use the main highway. I agree with the idealogy, I just don't think it's realistic and it's not actually as important as getting the majority of people onto their bikes for at least some journeys.