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I fianlly just thought fuck the money and went to condor for a new bike. It's going to be a pista and when I asked about wheels the guy who helped me said open pro rims weren't as good these days and that condor's own rims would be better. Is he right? Also, I'm not sure if I'm going to put it together myself or get them to. I'm not massively bothered about weight, more toughgness and reliabilty. I'm intrested in hole options too, someone reccomended me 36 on the back and 32 on the front, or is 32 plenty? Hubs i honestly have no idea about, are they more important than rims or what? i want to spend around 200 and i'm going to use them for couriering.

also, is it worth spending monet on a crankset or just getting an ok one?

| have Open Pro CDs laced to Goldtecs and they're still perfectly true after a lot of miles. 32 front, 36 back.

I've no experience with Condor rims but the pessimist in me would wonder if they had another agenda to recommend their own brand...

i was a courier for years ,had a set the same as oller goldtec to open pro, they were the nuts, not sure if open pros have changed since though

mavic a719 / a 319 rims with on one track hubs
cheap strong and cheerful

http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/HUOOLF/on_one_large_flangetrack_hub

What are condors own brand rims?

I've hear a few people bring up QC issues on newer batches of open pros, so i wouldn't rule it out. Quite a few of the condor guys are really good and properly know there stuff... although some are more about the sales patter. Mine are older and are fine so I can't really say anything bad.

The things that put me off OPs are; 1) price - last time I looked it seemed hard to find good deals that made OPs competitive with other similar rims. For eg are they worth double the price of rigidas, or why not up the budget to some DT Swiss? 2) Drilling and colour options - compared to something like A23s it seems hard to find them in anything other than 32h and black for a good price - this may have changed since I last looked. 3) Width. I'm sold on the who wide rim thing so unless they were an especially good deal I wouldn't buy narrow rims.

Tl;dl - IMO there are lots of comparable/better choices so OPs aren't the default rim they once were.

mavic a719 / a 319 rims with on one track hubs
cheap strong and cheerful

http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/HUOOLF/on_one_large_flangetrack_hub

This is a very sensible option and probably the best bet.

As for drilling it depends how much you (and your bag) weigh. If there's the rim/hub drilling option then you may as well go 32/36h. If not i wouldn't worry about it unless you're particularly heavy.

Thanks for ther replies. I'd trust the guy, he seemed really knowledgable and was genuinely triying to work out how to save me the most money. Some of the condor branded stuff is made by miche and on their website the gallery for the pista has one built up with wheels that have miche and condor written on them. Dude told me the race rims were made in portugal and had thicker braking surfaces and the spot where they join is smoother or done better or something.

the one ones look a bit cheap (not that i'd know, i mean, listen to me). And wouldn't high flange hubs reduce comfort? Goldtec on the other hand seem pricey.

I'm thinking about spending a bit more now to get the weight down, about 300 perhaps. I hadn't realised how much wheels weighed, it's as much as the frame yo! My current bike is somewhat ungainly and i've been dreaming on a nice light one.

I'm skinny/aerodynamic too, only ten stone but we carry some heavy shit. so would it be worth saving the weight of 4 spokes and going for 32h on the rear? a 36h rear might look cool though and that's what matters isn't it

I had another point but i've lost interest

My town wheels are:

front: 32h cxp22 > shimano 105
rear: 36h cxp22 > formula flip flop.

105 so I can take it off and lock it to the frame without faffing about with a wrench, and formula because Sheldon recommended them.
cxp22's because they're cheap and bomb-proof.

condor's own brand wheels seem fine in my experience, apart from needing trueing every couple of months. but london roads are often like the surface of the fucking moon.

their own brand brakes are a bit dodgy though and i've had a condor seatpost mysteriously crack, not sure who they're made by. neither part was particularly expensive and they were really good about sorting it out for free.

Once every two months? Pah, sound shite.

Quite, I've not had mine trued in almost two years.

...

I should probably get someone to look at them ...

+1

Although not necessarily "shit", just inappropriate for your use / weight.

Most of their own brand stuff is just rebranded - tektro etc. Everything own-branded I've had from them has been good.

i'm confused/tired. are we saying the condor wheels aren't that good/inappropriate?
I'm starting to think i should just keep costs down and go with them.
aaah, the emotional turmoil of bike builds.

I think the point everyone is making is that deuxanimaux's wheels clearly have an issue - either a shoddly build or under spec'd for his needs. You should not have to true wheels every couple of months. Equally though as Condor is an actual shop with generally v. good service you can prob just get them fixed by them.

Which ones are they?

These?
http://www.condorcycles.com/components/com_virtuemart/show_image_in_imgtag.php?filename=Condor_Uno_Deep__4d78a0e2e6a0a.jpg&newxsize=585&newysize=585&fileout=
http://www.condorcycles.com/Wheels-Hubs/8174-Condor-Uno-Deep-V-Wheelset/flypage.tpl.html

Pretty sure those have their generic hubs which are basically the same as all of the generic ones such as the on-one's, but have a much nicer finish. The ones I built had really nice lazer graphics. So I can't see any issue with the hubs.

Without knowing what the rims are it's hard to say, but they look around 30mm and with 32h they should be fine.

If you want cheap, check out Varno, or else go for the A319 build as suggested above which you could do yourself for c.120 (Rims c.£50, hubs c.£50, Spokes c.£20).

they're uno hubs on race rims, not the deep v rims. i definately don't want to risk building my own... one day though.

Here you go mate...We do stacks of wheel builds for the chaps on here...

Stacks of info here... http://www.lfgss.com/thread90468-11.html

i have a very strong front wheel for sale if i can source the parts i could built up a matching rear
check my sale thread
they take larger tyres 28-37mm