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@etorix
excellent, cheers .. that rusty knackered chain on there is already gone, replaced by the shop with a shiny KMC Z510
online quick-BCD-calc http://www.bikeman.com/bicycle-repair-tech-info/bikeman-tech-info/1628-chainring-bcd
can i get this to my phone .. no of course not, itsa POS with a crapoleum BT issue