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Micenetic that Lynksey looks like it could be the one.
I Hinius's kinesis too.
Problem is I then read the last part of Hinius' post and see the weight differences and this shitty little Weight Weenie angel pops up on my shoulder saying 'buy the Enve or this bike will be shit forever.' Bastard. I need to take stock.
Tester thanks again for that little gem, gonna email Tom now.